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You Kidding, Airfix ? Pin up camo from 21y !

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Today i saw in my favourit model shop a special/limited of Airfix 1/72 B-17. On box is round sticker and on box are added two NMF B-17. With - pin ups. One is a classic Vargas girl, in light nightdress and second is here a full naked - or with blue panties. Both pin up nose arts are VERY GOOD printed, very very detailed... For me is a B-17 a symbol of USAAF and American life style... Don´t forget - Esquire, Playboy or Penthouse coming from U.S.A.. (Yes, i know, in WW 2 exist a Esquire only - and here was a pin up girls.) American warplane from this time must be - BIG, SHINY and with BIG Pin Up, especialy when it is a bomber. Many airman in WW II was very young, why don´t speak - a "Virgin Mochitos" and they flying, fight, kill and die on Sky over Europe. Many never have a Girlfriend,  many have Wife and Baby... They flying with Big Shiny Bombers  over Germany  or Japan - With Big naked pin up girls painting with full frontal nudity - topless, with bare buttocks - and Very Sexy. When i was a boy, and i live in post - communist era Czechoslovakia a symbol of USA in WW2 for me was a Memphis Belle Bomber, from famous 1991 movie. On one side with a Ginger telephoned with her lover, on other side a really BIG blondie with big - breasts... (t.t.es, b..b.s). And today - i saw on this new L.E. B-17 - a small sticker, with B/W photo and text - This camo isn´t suibtable for person under 21 years !!! YES !!! TWENTY ONE !!! I read this for second, third... - no this isn´t a dream - really !!! I know, when you under 21, you can´t drinking.... in US... But - you now you can´t - in our internet - youtuber - rap and i-net celebrity - who often build it´s glory on big breast a big buttocks - build a 70 years old bomber, flying in WW 2 post-teen Airmens.... I´am shocked ! In my country on end (before fall of Communism) was on three MiGs and one Frogfoot attack Airfplane pain (for very short time) a WW 2 style pin ups.... In MiG´s Topless, one too in negliché, and Anča (Annie) on Su-25 (Never flew with this Nose arts) have big bare butt - in this time, when regime colapsed it was a symbol of rebelion, agains puristic regime, who censored nudity... And now, in 21 century, in England, was really pin up (1cm long) not suibtable for 21 old persons ? YOU KIDDING AIRFIX ?! In 21 years have many people first Kid ! Are in half time of University (2-3 year), and in WW 2 was many of this guys who flew pin ups decorated bombers and fighters - DEAD !!!! In past time i read a memory of one british Lancaster pilot - I was 18, i can flying with twin engined monster in night over Germany and kill peoples -and naturally - be killed -  but i can´t drink and drive car ! What is bad on nice young - and naked - girl ? Especially when is she only painted on  Airplane - on - after 75year later - printed in decal sheet ? Two years Playboy banned nudity on it´s magazine -and now are nudity back - because Playboy without nudity isn´t playboy and topless  or naked girl isn´t porno... AIRFIX - Please - removed a text from box of L.E. B-17... it is a  SHAME ! BIG SHAME !!!!  Be normal !


 

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Might not be up to Airfix and was this an added sticker as I cannot remember seeing anything on a UK boxed example? Different countries have hugely different standards as to what is acceptable. I understand that a Iran would not show a football match as the referee was female and presumably in shorts. In a lot of US states you cannot buy or be served alcohol until you are 21. 

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It was a english text sticker, in kit from czech distribution. I maybe bought it as curiosity. (No kidding - a pin up camos are really nice - but i two months back sold all 1/72 kits...) I think it is for US market warning.... But it is - strange :(

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Probably a sticker for some foreign market with a 21 year old limit for pornography... although yes, I agree that putting a nose art in the same cathegory of porn makes no sense. Still some countries have laws that set age limits, and no matter what we think, it's their laws and whoever want to sell in that country must abide.

Look at it from this point of view: you may have a rare box, may be worth a bit more if you resell it.

 

Of course the matter of age limits may lead to some interesting discussion, but also be a very sensitive subject for a forum... In any case I think that your points about the young age of the men who fought in WW2 should always be remembered ! Many of them were boys sent to kill and die at an age when they couldn't drink... for many of them the army, navy or air force was the first taste of life away from a small town, and for too many it was also their last.

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Both could be correct: there were campaigns against nudity within the USAAF that resulted in the more exposed young ladies receiving underwear.

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Pin up and colorful anti-camos where for me a reason why i was collected USAAF. Luftwaffe is for me a "cemetry art" - too many crosses and dark tones, R.A.F. i like, but was a little boring-only US is great. But very complicated for their NMF... But - gorgeous. Simple gorgeous. And when you have for your personal bible a great american pin up & gil elvgren complet pin up, when you love A.Vargas and your Girlfriend call "My dear Pin up Lady" - you must be a little shocked...It is a little piece of absurdity...

 

And when you look in last USAAF kits - nosearts with Girls isn't presented on boxarts and in decals too 😕 Animals and signs are tolerated, but pin ups not. (And you must looking for AM decals... ). I'm little frustrated from this.

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I wish I was young enough to be refused service 😢

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WOW, I’m gonna paint that on my car!

Its probably only a matter of time before these pictures/decals of historical nose art and indeed the entire building of war plane scale models will be seen as offensive and banned. Better stock up your secret stash

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Reminds me of the line from Apocalypse Now:

"We train our young men to rain down destruction on the innocent, but they cannot write xxxx on their aircraft because it is offensive"

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1 hour ago, Valkyrie said:

WOW, I’m gonna paint that on my car!

Its probably only a matter of time before these pictures/decals of historical nose art and indeed the entire building of war plane scale models will be seen as offensive and banned. Better stock up your secret stash

Kitsworld (who produced the decals) will be happy to print you a suitable decal for your car if you want one done.

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I’d love to but I’d get the jail 

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You can see their point. Young children shouldn't be exposed to naked breasts.

 

Er, hang on...

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It seems very strange to me that in representing a war-machine used during a conflict in which 55 million people died and entire nations were laid waste, anyone would be concerned about an image of a semi-naked female.  Surely there are much more important things to be concerned about?

 

Chris. 

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Yet weirdly our local art Gallery is happy to entertain groups of children to do art in a room full of unclad ladies in imminent or current danger of violence and/or death!

But that’s “real” art!

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7 minutes ago, malpaso said:

Yet weirdly our local art Gallery is happy to entertain groups of children to do art in a room full of unclad ladies in imminent or current danger of violence and/or death!

Ehh? You might have to explain this one. Me no understandy...

 

Chris. 

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@spruecutter96 the OP was about covering up naked lady pictures from small children on an Airfix box, I’m pointing out the madness of such thinking...

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9 minutes ago, malpaso said:

@spruecutter96 the OP was about covering up naked lady pictures from small children on an Airfix box, I’m pointing out the madness of such thinking...

I appreciate what the OP was saying, malpaso. Your comment seems to be implying that the small children in the local art-gallery are in danger of violence or death. Or am I mis-reading it.... sorry, if that's the case.

 

Chris. 

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59 minutes ago, spruecutter96 said:

I appreciate what the OP was saying, malpaso. Your comment seems to be implying that the small children in the local art-gallery are in danger of violence or death. Or am I mis-reading it.... sorry, if that's the case.

 

Chris. 

No it’s the naked ladies in the paintings that are generally in danger!  The gallery has a descriptive card for visitors stating that one of these ladies looks remarkably calm considering she is chained up and about to be eaten by a sea monster!!  I could probably show the picture but I don’t think BM are that keen on nakedness and bondage!

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On 4/16/2019 at 8:06 PM, spruecutter96 said:

 Surely there are much more important things to be concerned about?

 

Chris. 

With you completely Chris.

 

Chris.

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Nowt new in this.

During WW2 bombers were flown the Atlantic. Land fall was N.I. but several made emergency landing in Eire, which was neutral. 

Before the bombers were allowed to be returned to the USAAF in N.I. the naked ladies artwork on them had to be repainted to cover up the nudity

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On 4/20/2019 at 12:46 PM, malpaso said:

No it’s the naked ladies in the paintings that are generally in danger!  The gallery has a descriptive card for visitors stating that one of these ladies looks remarkably calm considering she is chained up and about to be eaten by a sea monster!!  I could probably show the picture but I don’t think BM are that keen on nakedness and bondage!

I could do with a smidgen of nakedness and bondage about now.... Did I just say that out loud (figuratively speaking / typing).

 

Chris. 

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