fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 When you buy a Dujin kit you are actually buying a kit, to produce a kit, to make a model; that is: you have to create kit parts from the some times undefined resin ectoplasm. Dujin is known for having created an extraordinary diverse line of very interesting planes, unfortunately in the form of extremely rudimentary resin kits. If I understand correctly, after the passing of M. Dujin a group of well-meant and dedicated friends is re-floating the line, with the addition of much welcome supplementary parts as photo-etched sets and what seems to be much better decals that any Dujin kit I have seen before. This has a lot of merit, and -if you have seen my builds- you know that I heartily support cottage industry, but there are limits. When I see a Dujin kit I unavoidably cringe, because I know that a lot of work is ahead even before you start. Yes, the subjects as I said above are attractive, and mostly kitted by no one else in the wide world of the kit industry, but the price to pay (not literally, they are not expensive) in work and frustration is very high, and the results are variable (from just ok to despicable). This kit is no exception, as you may see: Nice P.E. fret, apparently some sort of one-size-fits-all for a number of the Caudron racers produced by them: You will have to cut your own screens to size using the patterns provided: TWO transparencies, bless them: Looks like a decent decal sheet, we will see: A few pinholes here and there, of course: A casting web that goes from adequately thin to hard cake: The famous (probably patented) Dujin Banana Fuselage Halves: After some struggle, the parts are out of their resin traps: Again a few pinholes: After the spa hot jacuzzi treatment the fuselage sides relax and find a more straight position: Hindering the necessary sanding of the despicable inner surfaces of the fuselage halves for them to sort of mate, is the vertical tail, added to one side, who knows why (to bother us, most likely): Stats: Once you are done with a Dujin kit the substance of what it is made comprises 50% of the original resin and 50% of putty, fillers, epoxy and cyano. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG 33 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 At least you have the general shape faster than from scratch. Patrick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, VG 33 said: At least you have the general shape faster than from scratch. Patrick Hum, Patrick, may be, just may be. but overall, if you add all the time wasted in fixing all kinds of things, you will spend more time using the kit parts probably. In any case, we'll see where this one goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 This is my (bad) experience with Dujin kits so far: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwil Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Yikes! Still, if anyone can tame this beast, it’s you. That photo etched screen will be useful. AW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 interesting WIP I think you must have a look here: http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99205&start=600 A FARMAN 370 and a 380.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 9 hours ago, roadrunner said: interesting WIP I think you must have a look here: http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99205&start=600 A FARMAN 370 and a 380.... Beautiful!, I have corresponded with Adrien in the past, gorgeous model! Txs for posting the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I have been debating whether to acquire a Dujin racer or two and I'm afraid you haven't sold them to me. You will no doubt show your skill in building a nice subject from this 'sow's ear' Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, Courageous said: I have been debating whether to acquire a Dujin racer or two and I'm afraid you haven't sold them to me. You will no doubt show your skill in building a nice subject from this 'sow's ear' Stuart Stuart, the report is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but they are not bake-and-shake by any means, they require work and some skill. Some are better than others, so it depends on what you get, since they are basically hand-made. Give it a try, as you perhaps saw with my previous builds of this manufacturer, you will get eventually a model. If you have some experience, and have built resin models before, you will surely arrive to the finish line. For the not-so-experienced modeler, that has never built before a resin kit: stay away from Dujin until you have built a few good ones and/or have acquired more experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA80A2AR Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 ermmmmmmmm. not ideal for a first resin kit then. anyway i shall tag along and see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, SA80A2AR said: ermmmmmmmm. not ideal for a first resin kit then. anyway i shall tag along and see. If you can get one for a low price, you could practice on it all the things you may need to learn in just one kit 😉 (if you can overcome your frustration) I think that for a first resin, a simple, fairly uncomplicated kit from perhaps Planet Models may do. They do not have many parts, are sort of stocky, and more forgiving than more delicate (and better) kits . CMR, Choroszy and others may have simple kits too, although they are more refined than Planet, and may require more skill. Just chose something REALLY simple, but also that you like, so the motivation is there too, after all, this is not science, it's fun. Others may have different opinions regarding resins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 Every single part will have little pinholes to fill: The stab halves need to be separated. If you trusted, like I did, the line provided in the part to make the cut, then you will end up with the wrong angle, the parts making a "V", instead of the hinge line being perpendicular to the fuselage center line. Sigh.... Put some metal pins on those parts to eventually secure them, otherwise some may not hold: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 A bigger void at the nose bottom is filled with CA glue: It seems that you have to slide the wing into both fuselage halves as you glue them, because if you join the fuselage halves it is impossible to add the wing: Dry run: The transparencies of course are just acceptable; one as you can see can not serve even as a spare, because it got a plastic ridge just were the front should curve down and drop vertically. The "good" one is so-so. It's funny, because it seems that they are providing themselves a spare in case they flop, and not providing two parts for you, in case you flop 😉 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I have only ever built one resin kit but I never encountered the problems you're having here. That being said, the problems you're finding, you're also finding solutions, every cloud... Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA80A2AR Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 has a silver lining even the worst kits have potential 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Quote At least you have the general shape faster than from scratch. Hmm I'm not so sure, sometimes correcting a bad kit can take way longer than a good scratch build. As usual lovely work Moa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Courageous said: I have only ever built one resin kit but I never encountered the problems you're having here. That being said, the problems you're finding, you're also finding solutions, every cloud... Stuart Was it a good one, Stuart? they are like people. If your experience was good, I doubt it was a Dujin kit. I have built many especially SBS from Hungary, that are a breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moa said: Was it a good one, Stuart? they are like people. IIRC it was a 1/48 Caudron C.714 by JMGT. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Courageous said: IIRC it was a 1/48 Caudron C.714 by JMGT. Stuart Thanks for the reply. I am unfamiliar with both, brand and scale, but for what I can see online they look very decent. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Masking the delicate detail on the control surfaces, putty is applied to the pinholes and later sanded to restore the surface. Annoying, boring, but necessary: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 After a couple sandings and fillings it looks ok. The primer will later tell: Then fuselage's thick walls, as I was afraid, needed some material removed in order for the interior to have a chance to fit, always the same drill with Dujin. Addition of inst. panel, axle to prop, and preparations for some base paint application: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 The dry-run trial of the landing gear legs goes well, yeepee!: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 The primer revealed the true nature of the Dujin kit parts, a sight you don't want to see: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Oh that looks a bit rough. I like the priming stage as it brings together all your work - I hate the priming stage as it reveals more work needed!! Think what will be revealed when the fuselage is primed... Jeff 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Moa said: The primer revealed the true nature of the Dujin kit parts, a sight you don't want to see: Yuk...forewarned is forearmed. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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