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Laval66

Weapons Loadout Question - Vietnam Era A-6

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Is anyone able to identify the bomb loadout here? They resemble Mk 82s, but the snub nose with no fuse is throwing me for a loop

 

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Could they possibly be aerial mines of some sort? The structures at the rear do not look like any fins  fins or retard devices that I'm familiar with. That's as far as my thinking takes me- they sure are strange-looking, that's for sure. I'm betting @Tailspin Turtle might know, as he is the authority for all things that are naval aviation related.

Mike

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That reminds me some Napalm loads.

 

Patrick

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Wow- looked up Mk 77 napalm bombs and darned if you're not right, Dennis! That's a new one for me- I am impressed! I don't think I ever noticed them before, just the USAF ones that were a different nose shape. :clap2:

Mike

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KMC and Attack Squadron have done those, but they're out of production AFAIK, and may still be available on ebay.  Eduard's Brassin series still has them in production though.

 

Regards,

Murph

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Slightly off-topic but what is a loadout? I've seen the term a number of times recently and don't really understand what it means in this context.

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2 minutes ago, Sabrejet said:

Slightly off-topic but what is a loadout? I've seen the term a number of times recently and don't really understand what it means in this context.

 

Weapons load. 

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

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1 minute ago, Sabrejet said:

what is a loadout?

Its a term denoting all the weapons carried on a specific airframe on a particular sortie/mission.  

 

Dennis

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Napalm canisters, the small stub you see, are the magnesium ingniter I Think

Loadout is the weapon load but also the standard weapon configuration 

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27 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

Its a term denoting all the weapons carried on a specific airframe on a particular sortie/mission.  

 

Dennis

Hee, hee! "I'll take weapon loadouts for five hundred, Alex." (Yes, I know- I'm one sick puppy...too many years of exposure to Floquil and Pactra paint, I fear!)

Mike

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Thanks all: we just used the term 'load' in my day.  Which now makes me wonder why we now use a longer word for the same thing. Hey ho Cheers anyway.

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58 minutes ago, 72modeler said:

Hee, hee! "I'll take weapon loadouts for five hundred, Alex." (Yes, I know- I'm one sick puppy...too many years of exposure to Floquil and Pactra paint, I fear!)

Mike

 

The vision of Connery/Hammond making one of his jokes with the cathegory name sprung immediately to my mind reading this...  😁

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12 hours ago, Murph said:

KMC and Attack Squadron have done those, but they're out of production AFAIK, and may still be available on ebay.  Eduard's Brassin series still has them in production though.

 

Regards,

Murph

This is perfect. My mentor was with VA-176 (pictured), and I want to finally make a tribute.

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9 hours ago, Laval66 said:

This is perfect. My mentor was with VA-176 (pictured), and I want to finally make a tribute.

BTW, those are 1/72 versions I listed; although, I would imagine they did them in 1/48 scale too.

 

Regards,

Murph

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On 2/14/2019 at 4:17 AM, Laval66 said:

This is perfect. My mentor was with VA-176 (pictured), and I want to finally make a tribute.

 

VA-176 went through a number of different schemes during the years - I'm partial to the 1978 cruise semi-lo viz ones in Italeri's recent KA-6D boxing:

 

https://www.italeri.com/en/prodotto/2674#

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

 

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On 2/16/2019 at 4:38 AM, Hook said:

 

VA-176 went through a number of different schemes during the years - I'm partial to the 1978 cruise semi-lo viz ones in Italeri's recent KA-6D boxing:

 

https://www.italeri.com/en/prodotto/2674#

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

He actually was one of those birds with a front-row seat to the Lebanon conflict - apparently sitting on-station over the Med and just seeing the AA, jets, and countermeasures creating a panorama of chaos and color.

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On the topic of weapons' load on the A-6... and similar aircraft: Is it possible to put Mk. 82 snakeyes one in front of another on a MER? In other words, can I pack a MER with six of 'em? My 1/72 scale hasegawa weapon's pack says no for what, half a millimeter? But I beg to differ. (half a millimeter is around 3cm in real life in that scale and I've already pushed the rear bomb all the way back and the front bomb all the way ahead.

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3 hours ago, Air Hockey Propellers said:

On the topic of weapons' load on the A-6... and similar aircraft: Is it possible to put Mk. 82 snakeyes one in front of another on a MER? In other words, can I pack a MER with six of 'em? 

 

Yes:

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/A-6A_VA-35_with_Snakeeye_bombs_c1967.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/A-6A_VA-75_CVA-62_NAN6-67.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/skyhawkpc/8675385673

 

On the A-6, when a MER was carried on the inboard wing position AFAIK the inner forward position was generally left empty, to avoid fouling the main landing gear doors.

 

HTH,

 

Andre

 

 

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19 hours ago, Hook said:

 

Yes:

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/A-6A_VA-35_with_Snakeeye_bombs_c1967.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/A-6A_VA-75_CVA-62_NAN6-67.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/skyhawkpc/8675385673

 

On the A-6, when a MER was carried on the inboard wing position AFAIK the inner forward position was generally left empty, to avoid fouling the main landing gear doors.

 

HTH,

 

Andre

 

 

Thank you very much for the reference photos. I did also notice shortly after my first post here that my Fujimi a-7D kit has Mk. 82 Snakeyes to be attached in MERs. Comparing the snakeyes from both kits, Hasegawa's are too long. No wonder, they'll never fit. This makes in the second non-technical limitation error from Hasegawa's (the first calling the Strike Eagle in Euro One camo F-15E instead of YF-15E.

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9 hours ago, Air Hockey Propellers said:

This makes in the second non-technical limitation error from Hasegawa's (the first calling the Strike Eagle in Euro One camo F-15E instead of YF-15E.

 

Actually, 70-291 has always been a F-15B. 

 

Cheers,

 

Andre

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