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What am I not getting about Acrylic paint?

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1 hour ago, Space Ranger said:

Testors discontinued much of the Model Master line a couple of years ago.

Too bad! When I was in high school and early college they were great!

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I love Tamiya paints. They spray extremely well and have the best coverage of any acrylics on earth. I use Tamiya almost exclusively for basic whites and yellows precisely because they're the only ones that can cover even black pretty decently. Tamiya and Gunze are usually my go to paints because they don't smell as bad as lacquers, dry quickly (Tamiya particularly), and have better translucency than water-based acrylics. This is quite important to me since I embraced black-basing.

 

However, I concur that they are quite vulnerable to scratching. Far more than Gunze which dries rock solid. Just be careful with your models and avoid any heavy handed work until it's sealed. Also, unlike Gunze, Tamiya paints don't sand off evenly, an important consideration if you make a mistake or if you plan on using them as a primer (though if you know you won't need to sand the model anymore, X-1 gloss black is an excellent pre-NMF primer).

 

My main gripe with Tamiya is their inaccuracy. Most of them do not correspond to an actual color. I have little patience for mixing paints so I'm limited in terms of the range of Tamiya paints I will use. But there's still plenty (NATO tank colors, German tank colors, XF-24 makes a great FS36118, XF-4 great zinc chromate, etc.)

 

 

 

 

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Oh and I meant to mention Mission Models paints as a water based solution - they have a proprietary thinner, but I've thinned them successfully with water. They spray incredibly well for a water based paint, and they're available from a source near you in Seattle - I'm not affiliated with Model Paint Solutions other than being a happy customer.

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On 2/13/2019 at 7:40 PM, Cookenbacher said:

Oh and I meant to mention Mission Models paints as a water based solution - they have a proprietary thinner, but I've thinned them successfully with water. They spray incredibly well for a water based paint, and they're available from a source near you in Seattle - I'm not affiliated with Model Paint Solutions other than being a happy customer.

I'll have to check that out! We get to Seattle at least once a year. I suppose I could order it, but what's the fun in that?

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On 2/13/2019 at 1:52 PM, Phantome said:

I love Tamiya paints. They spray extremely well and have the best coverage of any acrylics on earth. I use Tamiya almost exclusively for basic whites and yellows precisely because they're the only ones that can cover even black pretty decently. Tamiya and Gunze are usually my go to paints because they don't smell as bad as lacquers, dry quickly (Tamiya particularly), and have better translucency than water-based acrylics. This is quite important to me since I embraced black-basing.

 

However, I concur that they are quite vulnerable to scratching. Far more than Gunze which dries rock solid. Just be careful with your models and avoid any heavy handed work until it's sealed. Also, unlike Gunze, Tamiya paints don't sand off evenly, an important consideration if you make a mistake or if you plan on using them as a primer (though if you know you won't need to sand the model anymore, X-1 gloss black is an excellent pre-NMF primer).

 

My main gripe with Tamiya is their inaccuracy. Most of them do not correspond to an actual color. I have little patience for mixing paints so I'm limited in terms of the range of Tamiya paints I will use. But there's still plenty (NATO tank colors, German tank colors, XF-24 makes a great FS36118, XF-4 great zinc chromate, etc.)

 

 

 

 

It seems that the whole range is limited in scope too. I guess I don't mind mixing colors once in a while, but for some colors (my Azure Blue that started this whole mess, for instance) I have found multiple, wildly varying recipes on line.

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Being fairly new to modelling.I bought a decent airbrush set up.And tried Vallejo couldn’t get on with it tried all sorts lowering pressure less thinner more thinner.Then i tried Tamiya great paint but kept thinking there must be better out there.Heard about Mission Models Paint.Bought a couple of bottles and there own thinner and the poly.To my surprise it’s amazing stuff.Mixing a little thicker than the others.But sprays extremely well.No tip dry and didn’t lift when you remove masking tape.Clean up is a breeze.

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9 hours ago, Bryan71 said:

Being fairly new to modelling.I bought a decent airbrush set up.And tried Vallejo couldn’t get on with it tried all sorts lowering pressure less thinner more thinner.Then i tried Tamiya great paint but kept thinking there must be better out there.Heard about Mission Models Paint.Bought a couple of bottles and there own thinner and the poly.To my surprise it’s amazing stuff.Mixing a little thicker than the others.But sprays extremely well.No tip dry and didn’t lift when you remove masking tape.Clean up is a breeze.

Good to hear! Gives me an excuse to go over the mountains to Seattle... ;)

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I have used acrylics for a while now and 

I think you have to learn airbrush and paintbrush techniques again as the paints are quite different. I prime with Halfords automotive or plastic primer and provided a model isn't handled too much before the top coat goes on, I have had few problems. The use of flow improver help with both brush and airbrush painting and talking to my brother who is an artist and teaches painting and sketching since he retired, he would never think of using acrylics without them. He also points out he rarely uses any paint without thinning apart from some oils and has to change his technique according to the medium. 

Go with works for you. I have also found domestic acceptability of my hobby has risen since using a low odour alternative (primer spraying being done outside or in the conservatory, providing both spray and model are at room temp, the minute or do to spray a 1/72nd scale model seems to be OK down to about 5 degrees C). 

 

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