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Since my raid on the web left me still empty:

 

I'm aware that cable bridle hooks were removed, by looking at some pictures it seems that they retained USN fairing but some other pictures are kinda foggy and it seems that the fairing was changed with AF covers, what's true?

Was the upper reinforcement wing plate for the landing gear still there or not?

Since I can't find any clear pictures of the bottom, the reinforcement plates were all the same for J/S aircrafts or they applied different ones?

hidden request about cockpit differences

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Was that a light at rudder's base or just a clear antenna?

Maybe more to come

 

Luigi

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A few answers from the pictures and books I have on the subject

- Bridle hooks area: all my pictures simply show the recess without the hooks

- Upper reinforcement over the landing gear: it's present

- Reinforcement plates: IIRC the J(UK) had the standard F-4S reinforcements.

- Rudder: not sure wich features you mean here, as the rudder doesn't seem to have anything. The only features I see at the base of the vertical tailplane are an intake at the front and the fuel dump vent at the rear ( below the rudder)

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8 hours ago, Silverkite said:

Since my raid on the web left me still empty:

 

I'm aware that cable bridle hooks were removed, by looking at some pictures it seems that they retained USN fairing but some other pictures are kinda foggy and it seems that the fairing was changed with AF covers, what's true?

Was the upper reinforcement wing plate for the landing gear still there or not?

Since I can't find any clear pictures of the bottom, the reinforcement plates were all the same for J/S aircrafts or they applied different ones?

 

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hidden request about cockpit differences

:D

 

Was that a light at rudder's base or just a clear antenna?

Maybe more to come

 

Luigi

Luigi

Some drawings of the fin from the F.4J UK illustrated parts catalog.

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John

 

 

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On 11 February 2019 at 12:28 PM, Silverkite said:

Since my raid on the web left me still empty:

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hidden request about cockpit differences

:D

 

Was that a light at rudder's base or just a clear antenna?

Maybe more to come

 

Luigi

 

The white navigation light on the fincap was relocated to the drag'chute door when the RWR pod was added.

 

Tony

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On 2/11/2019 at 1:46 PM, Giorgio N said:

A few answers from the pictures and books I have on the subject

- Bridle hooks area: all my pictures simply show the recess without the hooks

- Upper reinforcement over the landing gear: it's present

- Reinforcement plates: IIRC the J(UK) had the standard F-4S reinforcements.

- Rudder: not sure wich features you mean here, as the rudder doesn't seem to have anything. The only features I see at the base of the vertical tailplane are an intake at the front and the fuel dump vent at the rear ( below the rudder)

 

Thanks Giorgio, for the rudder I meant the clear part at the base, for which I got the answer ^_^

 

https://www.airliners.net/photo/UK-Air-Force/McDonnell-F-4J-Phantom-F3/536729

 

On 2/13/2019 at 12:23 AM, tony.t said:

 

The white navigation light on the fincap was relocated to the drag'chute door when the RWR pod was added.

 

Tony

Thanks Tony,

 

Speaking of drag chute doors there were only two types of them, one with ECM blister and clean, or there it was also a third version?

Asking cause I see some differences between various Phantoms from different operators

 

Luigi

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Luigi, maybe I misunderstood the locaton of the navigation light... on the F-4J(UK) the only white navigation light I can see on the tail is at the very top. Then there's a red light on the fin leading edge.

 

On 2/13/2019 at 12:23 AM, tony.t said:

 

The white navigation light on the fincap was relocated to the drag'chute door when the RWR pod was added.

 

Tony

 

I see that on the FG.1 and FGR.2, but on the J ?

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8 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

How sad to see the F4J in that condition. It deserves a better end than to just sit and rot. 

It does, but it is serving a purpose where it is. 

 

Given how rare it is I hope it will get saved.

 

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8 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said:

How sad to see the F4J in that condition. It deserves a better end than to just sit and rot. 

 

2 minutes ago, Julien said:

It does, but it is serving a purpose where it is. 

 

Given how rare it is I hope it will get saved.

 

 

Very forlorn but an ideal candidate for @AndyRM101's weathering magic

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