Marklo Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Vs Pip (looks cute but still has that Killer instinct) decided to have a go at the Pup over the weekend and the result was this> So seeing as I didn't post a WIP for the build I'm going to do a WIP for the rebuild. As the carpet monster has intervened and taken the lower port wing the undercariage needs a few new struts and I was never happy with the rigging anyway there'll be a fair bit to the restoration. Mostly the thread will be about the Pup not ending up in the spares box (for a brief moment it was going to be the makings of a Sopwith Mouse 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhouse Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I think Pip should be renamed the Red Baron. Good luck with the restoration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 Quote I think Pip should be renamed the Red Baron That thought did cross my mind, but the rest of the household might wonder ( a bit more) at my sanity if I start calling him Manfredd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 And we now have a core for the new port wing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 That would be one very dead cat if it were mine. One reason I don't have one. (Another being I'm allergic to them). Ian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 The Mouse, actually I think I'd like one in my collection anyway also known as the Alcock 1 mostly Pup parts. Quote That would be one very dead cat if it were mine. One reason I don't have one. (Another being I'm allergic to them). Seeing as how he's clung to life for the last 20 years and I do like cats, who am I to say. He knows he's in trouble but is keeping quite about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskin Air Services Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Once a common occurrence, many years ago one of the cats sent my 1/48 monogram B17G on a death spiral to the carpet !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallBlondJohn Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) On a warships forum long ago, a member announced his wife had got two kittens and asked for naming suggestions. We suggested Nimitz and Doenitz as they had destroyed more ships than anybody else. He got the point. Good luck with the restoration! Edited February 11, 2019 by TallBlondJohn 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 New wing offered up for comparison, might still have the chord a little wide and the tip needs a little sanding but getting there (possible better than the original,) Tail plane and rudder glued back on. Most of the rigging survived the encounter so I may leave it alone. And here's the culprit, completely guilt free. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matti64 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 looks good. If you like it better, make another to match it precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 Quote looks good. If you like it better, make another to match it precisely. A little fettling should see it match, Held on for the dry fitting, the angle of incidence is a tiny bit off so this should account for the apparent chord difference. I'll use my jig when I glue it on so as to ensure it's in the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Oh dear. That would definitely make me grumpy. Mind you, I’d be quite concerned if I was harbouring a carpet monster that could devour a complete 1/48 wing...😲 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matti64 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Marklo said: A little fettling should see it match, Held on for the dry fitting, the angle of incidence is a tiny bit off so this should account for the apparent chord difference. I'll use my jig when I glue it on so as to ensure it's in the right place. I've founf with scratch built wings, if you can get thick strip in at the leading and trailing edges and root and some laminations at the tip, then you can relax and work those without any fear of the skinning coming away. I've started working my way through my Sierra and PAmela Veal WWI I subjects and have decided to wherever possible add laminated plasticard or block to all of the wing tips and profile them rather than struggling with joins along the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 Quote with scratch built wings, if you can get thick strip in at the leading and trailing edges and root and some laminations at the tip, then you can relax and work those without any fear of the skinning coming away. I'm using a variation of the Woodman method, instead of double sided sticky tape I CA the skin to the wing, that way even if I need to sand through the skin it still firmly attached. As happens I compared the new wing to the plans and it was indeed the chord was about .5 of a mm too wide (much better too big than too small) . I've now corrected it scribed the ailerons and drilled all the holes ready for fitting and painting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matti64 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Marklo said: I'm using a variation of the Woodman method, instead of double sided sticky tape I CA the skin to the wing, that way even if I need to sand through the skin it still firmly attached. As happens I compared the new wing to the plans and it was indeed the chord was about .5 of a mm too wide (much better too big than too small) . I've now corrected it scribed the ailerons and drilled all the holes ready for fitting and painting. I've been fortunate That I've been able to aquire a nipping press and I laminate the skins onto the wooden cores using Dichloromethane as a solvent and then do the laminating in the press. I have had had problems in the past laminating with CA and then went over to Epoxy which I found reliable but prone to oozing betwen the wing skins and the plasticard leading and trailing edges, which I've taken to using as a good means of controlling the L.E. and T.E. contours. Dichloromethane is a hazardous chemical and should only be used where you've got very, very good ventilation, but I have found it most effective as a solvent especially where any kind of laminating is involved. I've mostly gone over to using heat stretched plasticard on wings, and paired, scored lines on tail surfaces for rib tapes, rather than embossed skins. Some of these methods might seem a bit excessive, but Hopefully the wings I@ve made will stand the test of time , unlike the wings of some of my older scratchbuilt projects, which I am now working through making new wings for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 New wing attached. Next step a little filling and some eyelets. Cleanup of the existing wing and more eyelets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matti64 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Looking good. I've found a photo of a bit of leftover wing showing the plasticated leading and trailling edges and one of the dolphin...https://www.flickr.com/photos/165720137@N06/47041511012/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/165720137@N06/47041511012/in/dateposted-public/ Edited February 14, 2019 by matti64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 That is really neat. Looks the business. My method is way more crude but pretty much works provided I fill any voide with CA to allow sanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matti64 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Marklo said: That is really neat. Looks the business. My method is way more crude but pretty much works provided I fill any voide with CA to allow sanding. Hadn#t quite got the trick of pisting pictures. the first link is to the one of the wing tip. I'm happy with the repalcement wings for the dolphin and feel confident that they'll last better than the [revious ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) Working on matching the new wing. Something didn't look quite right and I eventually realized that I had made the chord slight ly narrower and also the trailing edge was a little slanted, so I've CA'd a 1mm to nothing sliver on to the trailing edge and milliputted it in, followed by copious sanding and it's now looking correct (still some sanding left) I've also made a new set of struts. .5mm card sandwiched between .25mm with (oasis wire) .9mm steel pieces at the ends set into the .5mm card, still need a little more shaping, but nearly ready to go. Should be ready to refit the upper wing by the weekend. Edited February 19, 2019 by Marklo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) New wing fitted and undercoated in Tamiya Khaki Drab, pretty close to PC10 (hmm slightly blurry photo, looks better iRL), I used AK interactive PC10 early on the build but it is very translucent so needs a decent undercoat to get a good finish (the tail plane is still in it's original PC10). SO it's a new coat of PC10, some scotchbrite polishing a new underwing roundel and then it's ready for rigging and rebuilding. Edited March 14, 2019 by Marklo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 Undercarriage repaired and re attached. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matti64 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Looking good. I wish that I could get my eyelets that small and tidy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 Quote I wish that I could get my eyelets that small and tidy. I'm using .26mm wire around .5mm brass rod and twist it with a pin chuck, giving an eyelet with an OD of (approximately) 1mm they're almost to scale at 1/48 and pronbably good for 1/32. Anything smaller is beyond me although there are probably those here using unfeasibly smaller wires to get even better results 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Poor Pip has sadly passed on but the Pup is still on my workbench, however the end is in sight again. To summarize, made a new lower wing, attached and painted it. repaired the undercarriage. made and fitted new interplane struts, added eyelets for re rigging and have partially rigged it and reattached the upper wing. Just need to finish redoing the rigging, add cabane struts, touch up the paintwork and refit the Lewis gun and the pilots face guard. BTW the photo shows what I refer to as the cardboard box method ( although I've resorted to tupperware as I didn't have a suitable cardboard box in reach at the time) for aligning biplane wings, works a charm and no expensive jigs needed (nice and all as they are) Edited November 14, 2019 by Marklo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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