Jump to content
This site uses cookies! Learn More

This site uses cookies!

You can find a list of those cookies here: mysite.com/cookies

By continuing to use this site, you agree to allow us to store cookies on your computer. :)

Tomoshenko

The Brummagen IPMS Beer Mat Challenge – RS Models 1/72 Avro Rota C.30

Recommended Posts

Each year the Birmingham IPMS hold a competition for models that fit within the area of a beer mat (technically a Carling Black Label beer mat) which for the generic sized mat designed to accommodate a traditional nonic imperial pint glass is 31/2 x 31/2 inches (88mm in new money). Due to my impeccable timing….not, I missed last year’s competition. However, this year I intend to field an entry.

 

The rule of the competition is that it must fit within a beer mat, any subject or scale. Height is limited to a foot or so (Bill I’ve forgot what is it?), but depth is unlimited. So technically you could do an inverted scale model of a bathysphere exploring the depths of the Marianas Trench. I’m going for something nowhere near as imaginative. I bought this a while back with the intention of entering. I’ve got the Lanc out the way, and intend to start another substantive project in the near future, but want something small and quickish in between.

 

This is my first foray into helicopter, well technically, auto/gyrocoptery – working myself up for the full plunge! There’s been a few builds of this kit on here, all quite tasty and in different schemes. Here is the proverbial box and kit contents.

 

IMG-4547.jpg

 

There isn’t much to it. The transparencies for the visors are printed on an acetate sheet. Detailing isn’t bad for such a small kit, but I will be adding some “improvements” (I’ve used quotes as a caveat in the event my attempt leads to a complete hash of things). The belts and harnesses are moulded to the seats, rectification of this is the first job, the engine may benefit from some extra detailing, and I’ll see what other bits n bobs I can add. I’ll also have to modify the rotor blades so they are in the folded back position. This will enable it to fit on the beer mat. Curiously I also like the Daddy Long Legs look this position gives it.

 

IMG-4550.jpg

 

All the schemes look attractive, especially the Swiss scheme, but I’ve chosen RAF K4230.

 

IMG-4552.jpg

 

There are a few restored versions knocking around museums in various schemes. Those in the silver livery are painted all over silver. However, I found this piccie where the engine cowling is polished aluminium. I quite like this look, similar to the scheme I did my Fury Hawker Fury RFI in so I’ve opted for this one. It’s not the same aircraft as the kit transfers, but very similar so it’s quite plausible that the K4230 looked something like this. I’ll do the cowling in bare metal foil so hopefully it will be quite eye catching and will complement my Fury when the sit beside each other in the display cabinet.

 

In-Flight.jpg

 

Right then, first up is a coupled of poached eggs for breakfast and a mug of tea, then a start on the interior.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Following, as I am absolutely intrigued by the notion of you modelling a 1:72 breakfast for the pilot even before the cockpit is done! :D

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I love the undercarriage! Do the instructions say “shake six seemingly similar sticks together until it looks like the picture”?

 

Looking forward to this, although I’d do it wheels up if I were you!

 

Regards,

Adrian

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Interesting project mind if I sit by the bar and watch?

 

  Roger

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks all and glad to have you aboard.

 

8 hours ago, AdrianMF said:

I love the undercarriage! Do the instructions say “shake six seemingly similar sticks together until it looks like the picture”?

 

Looking forward to this, although I’d do it wheels up if I were you!

 

Regards,

Adrian

Adrian as you can see the instructions are pretty basic and old school, so I’m sure it would be to your taste. The undercarriage will be a bit of a faff, I know some modelers have concocted a jig. It’s bridge to cross when I get there.

 

On closer inspection the moulding is a bit dodgy, plenty of seams and rough edges, so everything will need cleaning up old school style. I’ve made a very small start and bust my cherry in that I’ve cut the first piece of plastic to coin a phrase. Here are the seats I mentioned above.

 

IMG-4664.jpg

 

The entry hatch is a sort of moulded roller shutter affair like you’d find on a bureau. The real hatch on the actual aircraft is retractable, but it does not look like this. Some library sources with the aircraft on the ground show it open. Anyroad I’ve decided to remove it and show it in the open / retracted position too to show more detail inside. I’ve also started sanding back and tidying up the seats.  

 

IMG-4663.jpg

 

IMG-4668.jpg

 

Oh well as they say a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step…

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There was a build thread here on BM a while back that found out the V struts were too short and the whole undercarrige had to be scratch built. Good luck with this baby kit

 

Regards Toby

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This should look most dashing in disco silver Tomo. :thumbsup2:

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gonna lurve this'n

 

Go Tomo go

 

I think our George imposed a twelve inch ceiling on the build but from my memory of Nigel's briefing I don't remember any stated limit

 

Anyway, keep it tight

 

I get an uncomfortable feeling I should get on with my non-beermat Aeroclub Skeeter, needs doing and looks like the General has forgotten his completely...

 

😆

 

But since chatting to John on Sunday I'm also getting Cranberry flavouring in my soup...

 

Frog one waiting, mm mmm!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ooh I picked this kit up at IanAllen the other day. Looks like you’re goi g to have fun. I’ll tag along if that’s ok.

johnny.

 

ps. I put it back down again btw😊

Edited by The Spadgent

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, Patrik said:

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235010850-rs-models-172-avro-rota/

This may help you avoid some of my mistakes, and allow you to concentrate on your own.

Watching with interest.

Patrik

Thanks Patrik I have come across this build, and a nice job you made of it too. I have bookmarked it and will use it as a reference thanks.

 

52 minutes ago, perdu said:

Gonna lurve this'n

 

Go Tomo go

 

I think our George imposed a twelve inch ceiling on the build but from my memory of Nigel's briefing I don't remember any stated limit

 

Anyway, keep it tight

 

I get an uncomfortable feeling I should get on with my non-beermat Aeroclub Skeeter, needs doing and looks like the General has forgotten his completely...

 

😆

 

But since chatting to John on Sunday I'm also getting Cranberry flavouring in my soup...

 

Frog one waiting, mm mmm!

Cheers Bill. This un will be on terra firma, so within the rules. That said there is part of me that would like to do a ten foot + tall (deep / inverted) model of a bathysphere exploring the depths of the Marianas Trench just to see the expression on folks faces :winkgrin:

 

Nothing worth posting build wise this evening. I have finished off sanding back the seats and searching tinternet (including Patrik's build) for references for detailing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

PM sent

Patrik

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Patrik very kindly PMd me some drawings which are very useful indeed. I’m beginning to take stock of what to add and what not (unable to add), finding my feet as it were.

 

One thing which I did decided right from the offset was to do something about the rudder pedals. Here is the kit offering which is just a lumpy plastic ridge and looks awful.

 

IMG-4673.jpg

 

Bottom right (and just about left) is the real thing.

 

Cockpit2.jpg

 

And from the plans Patrik sent me (sorry for the small size).

 

Capture.png

 

First up was to remove the ridge and scratch replacements from rod, wire, and folded take-away foil. Here is the result:

 

IMG-4675.jpg

 

Dry-fitted in place at the moment so a bit wonky.

 

IMG-4678.jpg

 

Perhaps a tad over scale but better than the blobby originals. More soon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Tomo,

               Watching with interest.  One of these contraptions listed as a Cierva C30 was based at, what was then Elmdon Airport, now Birmingham International. It was there when I was a lad in the early '60s. I never saw it fly but it was stored in a hangar not far from the old airport building. You weren't supposed to go into the hangar but one night me and a couple of mates snuck in (it was usually left open) and had a good look at it and some of the other light aircraft there. On the way out we were met by a single airport police constable but seeing that we were peaceable and just interested in the planes, he just let us off with a warning that we weren't allowed in. Can't see that happening today somehow........................

I well remember the awkward look of it, with a big radial on the front and the stilty undercarriage also that it looked surprisingly big. It was silver doped and the registration was G-ACUU. I think the reg was in red and so were the undercarriage legs and pylon. It's now on display at Duxford.

Brings back memories of school holidays, cycling to Elmdon from Aston and spending sunny afternoons in the viewing enclosure............those really were the days. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm like you Dave, I used to ride over to Elmdon on my own scratch built bike from just round the corner to where Tom lives now

 

I call it a scratch build acos the frame was found in the river Cole, handed in to Sparkhill cop shop then returned to me by them so I could build it into My Bike

 

I never did get to wander round many of the buildings though, occasionally pottering about by the flying club hut

 

Tom I found a half decent shot of a Cierva in Hendon on my phone, if its any use I'll send it to you

Sunday do?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nice one, and I’m intrigued by the ‘Beer Mat Challenge’ - what a great idea!  The box colour profiles seem to suggest a polished metal forward fuselage, so it seems entirely reasonable to do it that way (I would).

Jon

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×