fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Marklo said: All I can think of is when Ghandi was asked what he thought of western civilisation to which he replied ‘it would be a good idea’ 😄 27 minutes ago, Marklo said: Not to get all political but it is starting to look as if there may be some return to sanity in your neck of the woods. Perhaps this is the first sign of things returning to some semblance of normal, From your lips to Ilúvatar´s ears. 27 minutes ago, Marklo said: wether I can get a job again Hopefully soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Moa said: Ilúvatar Que?? (Don’t have the upside down question mark on this keyboard) The Job thing is somewhat complicated by my ME which makes me make stupid mistakes and not be able to do eight hours on the trot. (Part time engineering work is almost non existent; in fact I was trying to go on a 4 day week at the beginning of the year and ended up getting made redundant!) But I am fairly financially sound and getting disability payments. But that said I’d like to get back to work but need to have my health under much better control for that. ( thanks for listening) End whinge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Marklo said: Que?? Here are some ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ for your personal use. Ilúvatar is the name of the creator in J.R.R. Tolkien mythology (see "The Silmarillion") Hope the situation improves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Greatvwork on the exhausts and ribbing Moa. Fingers crossed for you guys over the other side of the pond with the election. Mark, hope you feel better and get something sorted out in the realms of work too. Chris 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, bigbadbadge said: Fingers crossed for you guys over the other side of the pond with the election. Indeed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 The lower wing halves are pinned and their location measured and drilled on the fuselage sides. Besides four dimples for the landing gear, no other locations are marked on the fuselage, so it's up to you to do all the measuring and drilling for wings, struts, control cables, etc. The location of the float aft struts does not correspond to the ones for the landing gear at the rear. Their aft anchoring points are where the trailing edge of the lower wing is. We can see here the resin floats from Khee-Kha Art Products, a superb, clean, precise cast. They fit the bill for this plane fantastically: Floats position has to be determined, struts figured out and fabricated. The prop in the kit plan has a larger diameter than all the photos I have, and has to be trimmed slightly back: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 The floaties. These did not have water rudders and therefore no cables running to them. The structure consisted of two "M" arrays for and aft and diagonal braces, plus four very short struts connecting the internal sides of the floats vertically to the spreadbars, something I haven't seen before: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Marklo said: All I can think of is when Ghandi was asked what he thought of western civilisation to which he replied ‘it would be a good idea’ Not to get all political but it is starting to look as if there may be some return to sanity in your neck of the woods. Perhaps this is the first sign of things returning to some semblance of normal, although we still have COVID, Brexit and the impending ecological crisis(es?) (and my many medical conditions and wether I can get a job again) to get through yet. I agree with Ghandi. There does appear to be some light at the end of the election tunnel, and for once it does not appear to be that of an oncoming train. I hope your medical and employment conditions improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Moa said: Ilúvatar is the name of the creator in J.R.R. Tolkien mythology (see "The Silmarillion") Should have known that one but then again even though the lord of the rings is one of my favourite books I struggled through the Silmarrillion. I’m hopeful on the work front but won’t be doing a lot till next year at the earliest. I may look into contract work when things get a bit more normal, or see if I could blag my way into lecturing. I’m pretty good in CAD so was toying with the idea of getting a 3D printer and seeing if I could enter the aftermarket ( suggestions welcome btw) But as said thankfully I’m not under any great financial pressures. Anyhoo enough about me. Back to the wonderful modelling. Edited November 6, 2020 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 The process to insert the plugs to augment the span starts: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) Love the little mitre box, must see if I can get one. Potentially nerve wracking surgery Edited November 6, 2020 by Marklo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Marklo said: Love the little mitre box, must see if I can get one. Potentially nerve wracking surgery There are several, not onerous, easy to obtain, by known manufacturers like Excel, Zona, etc. Not particularly difficult, but as usual requires a bit of patience, some degree of dexterity, and cleanness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Moa said: Not particularly difficult, but as usual requires a bit of patience, some degree of dexterity, and cleanness. My default would be to bail in with a razor saw and cut it by eye. But ( strangely enough) I find that the better my model engineering is the easier my builds are so I am trying to do more precision work, hence the callipers and the engineers square visible on my bench ( lord knows I have almost all the tools) and less bodging and catching thing in the edits sort of an early New Years resolution ( if 2020 ever ends) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 20 hours ago, Moa said: The floaties. I think I have asked this before but I'm older now and can't remember, how do you know what floats are fitted to these craft? Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, Courageous said: I think I have asked this before but I'm older now and can't remember, how do you know what floats are fitted to these craft? Stuart Hi Stuart Sometimes there are descriptions/specifications, sometimes it's evident because of the particularities of float. In this case it's just by visual match, studying photos, and by taking measures. I was surprised to find among the sets that I have this pair, which needs absolutely no mods (most of the times I have to make changes to adapt what is in the market to my modeling purposes). It was a great relief, as even the step is in the right place, and so are the spreadbars!. These are Fairchild P6 floats, as used among others in the Fairchild 71. I have no idea if these P6 floats were the ones used, but the Fokker CV , a similar plane, apparently used a similar type of floats, and their shape, size and details match the P6's. The Fairchild 71 and Fokker C.IV were contemporaries. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Stacked styrene is used to pack the necessary volume: The added sections are roughly sanded down beginning the process of matching them with the rest of the wing: 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 The parts are primed. Either with the enamel paint marker or the masking approach, it seems to work ok, obtaining a subtle relief effect: 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Excellent progress on the wing the plugs look great. What a cracking bit of luck having the right type of floats in stock. Chris 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 The wing is now ready for some spot-puttying and sanding, and eventually for the addition of the rib detail. At this point I can honestly say that, given the not impressive at all quality of this kit, and the work involved in the conversion, one would be much better off with scratchbuilding. Since my son is partial to the float version, I will strive to complete that one, and leave the land version for -may be- another time, as this is a phenomenal waste of time given the starting point. Some of you may know that I have tamed many a dragon, but this is just a bit silly, also considering all the care needed to work with resin. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Love the rib work. After you've put a coat or two of primer down, do you do a light sand to smooth the ridges? Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Courageous said: Love the rib work. After you've put a coat or two of primer down, do you do a light sand to smooth the ridges? Stuart Hi Stuart It's several layers of primer on the one with the masking tape if done with airbrush (about 15) and Alclad primer. If using a spray can with automotive primer may be about 5 or 6. Once all has dried, tape is removed, and the hard edges carefully smoothed with soft pad light sanding. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 Primer applied: 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 In case I ever want to proceed with the second kit, and whilst my grasp of the kit is still fresh, I am working on the other wing with a different approach, in order to keep the boring sanding exercise to a minimum. The extensions will be constructed, instead of solid, and consist of a lower skin, spars and metal pins bridging everything for solidity, and a closing upper skin: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Moa, Firstly Congratulations to your son being a new Father and you being a new Grandpa. And your Build is coming alone So Impressively. Looking great. One of MY favorites. Keep it coming. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Fantastic work on these Fokkers Moa. You could have called this thread "Meet the Fokkers"! I'll get my coat....... Terry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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