bentwaters81tfw Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636051/Shocking-moment-Russian-nuclear-capable-bomber-crashes-fireball.html#v-3028885736048341998 This was a fatal accident. Respect for the crew. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Well - thanks for sharing the link. It was an awful accident. But, more than that, thank you for your comment about respect for the crew. Respect richly deserved. Jonny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spruecutter96 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 A truely terrible event. Tragically, the aircrew died serving their nation and respect is very much due to them. A couple of things occur to me after watching the video. Why was the landing being filmed? Standard procedure in bad weather conditions? Or, did they know that there was a problem with the aircraft? Also, the aircraft did not appear to land that hard from what we can see, but it still broke in two. Obvioulsy, there could be several factors involved that are not evident in the clip. Again, a very sad occurence. Chris. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Horrific, my thoughts go out to the families of the crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Horrible incident and hope something will be learnt but equally horrible are some of the comments, people died in that film and yet some rejoiced......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 When I saw the link I assumed it would be a fake or CGI video. I didn't expect that. How awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet-mech Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 15 hours ago, spruecutter96 said: A truely terrible event. Tragically, the aircrew died serving their nation and respect is very much due to them. A couple of things occur to me after watching the video. Why was the landing being filmed? Standard procedure in bad weather conditions? Or, did they know that there was a problem with the aircraft? Also, the aircraft did not appear to land that hard from what we can see, but it still broke in two. Obvioulsy, there could be several factors involved that are not evident in the clip. Again, a very sad occurence. Chris. The aircraft hit the ground with a 7.6G impact. It did seem to lose a lot of height very rapidly so could have been in the early stages of stall. Especially as they were beginning to throttle up quite quickly. I honestly can't believe they were landing in those conditions. Huge respect to those who perished. Rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 From comments on PPRuNe I understand that Russian Air Force standard procedures include filming all take-offs and landings for training and evaluation purposes. The rapid sink rate of the aircraft would suggest that the pilots simply did not see the runway in the visibility, and the crash was a CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain) accident. Either way, three airmen died as a result, and one wonders why -unless they were short of fuel- they were not diverted elsewhere . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I’ve looked at the video a few times. The sink rate doesn’t appear to be overly excessive prior to touchdown but the bounce following suggests that it was. 7+ negative g would be well beyond any structural design criteria. However, I would expect the landing gear to collapse rather than the aircraft bounce if it were that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailspin Turtle Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 On further review, it looks like it was a heavy touchdown, with the forward fuselage breaking off at a manufacturing join. Most of the “bounce”, therefore, was aerodynamic, with the center of gravity shifting aft, resulting in a pitch up, which caused the angle of attack and therefore the lift to increase. Something similar occurred here, only with the extreme aft end of the fuselage breaking off: http://youtu.be/QIsbSz03WdU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 4:21 PM, Toe said: Horrible incident and hope something will be learnt but equally horrible are some of the comments, people died in that film and yet some rejoiced......... Yep. The internet is a wonderful place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I agree that they may not have seen the ground. The rate of descent looks to be a not-insubstantial rate but the lack of any flair before touchdown suggests that the aircraft was just flown into the ground. Fairly bad conditions, and I would not have wanted to feel that bang and the few seconds that followed it. Poor, poor guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent K Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: I agree that they may not have seen the ground. The rate of descent looks to be a not-insubstantial rate but the lack of any flair before touchdown suggests that the aircraft was just flown into the ground. Fairly bad conditions, and I would not have wanted to feel that bang and the few seconds that followed it. Poor, poor guys. I'd imagine any kind of flair or showmanship was the last thing on their mind with those conditions........ On a serious note though, I don't know with the Tu22 but does it flare on landing? or is the approach profile not unlike, for example, Concorde which didn't flare on landing? Edited February 1, 2019 by Agent K typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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