SA80A2AR Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 i may sound like a realy dumb question but how do you use setting fluid and what is the best one to get 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Hello @SA80A2AR ... I use the Micro Set/Sol solutions. I just wet the decal in rather hot bathing temperature water. While it is sitting soaking on the paper, i brush the location on the model with the micro set. Then i place the decal and get it situated. Once the decal is in the position i want it in. I gently blot/wick up the excess fluid using kitchen paper towel. After doing a few decals in a location i go back and brush the micro sol on. Once the micro sol is on i never touch them, they need to be left for a long time. The micro sol essentially melts the decal into the paint/clear coat so they are almost impossible to remove. I use future/pledge as a clear coat. After the decals are all placed, i give the entire model a 2nd clear coat and eventually a flat coat. I hope this helps you ? Dennis 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA80A2AR Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 yep. so micro sol and set are good ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Setter=positioning/gluing (allegedly) Softener= the stuff that makes decals go in to panel lines, round curves, take a trip to your nans etc and is much more useful. Decals= all are not the same, use the Mr Hobby stuff with Begemot and you'll get a Jackson Pollock, Xtradecals/Microscale decals are made for use with Microsol/Set and so on. The only universal solutions are the Daco ones pictured here and available from @little-cars . They come in 3 strengths, work brilliantly and progressively with any silk screen/Alps decals*, are made by an expert decal maker and should be in every modellers tool kit. Currently what I use is the following Problems: Some solutions will react with/attack acrylic gloss coats, lots of variables, none will make a dent in my preferred gloss coat which is Mr Super UV cut 112 ( also known in the car trade as LS184 (29184) Nitron High) which is a nitrocellulose lacquer *Some decals will not respond to solutions at all, like Peddinghaus & Drawdecals as they are printed on a Roland sign printer and not silk screened. For these I use incredibly hot water on a paper towel, which incidentally works wonders with ordinary decals and helps raise your pain threshold for having boiling water on your hands- useful if you're caught by the enemy and tortured. Others: Some folk like to use neat cellulose thinner : http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2006/10/stuff_eng_benshahar_bf110.htm There's a good technique involving diluted Future/Klear: can cause problems with acrylic gloss coats for obvious reasons, its pinned to the top of this forum and I used it here Postscript: "Like all of life, there is no simple answer to your question only a journey of joyous discovery with much handing over of cash, grasshopper.." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorby Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Generally setting solutions work fine, but every now and again I've had problems with the decals blistering and staying that way. So lately I've been using a different method suggested by @stevehnz: So far this method has worked very well – with no unexpected results. It's cheaper as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 1:51 PM, Gorby said: Generally setting solutions work fine, but every now and again I've had problems with the decals blistering and staying that way. So lately I've been using a different method suggested by @stevehnz: Is there an echo in here?.. I mentioned it, posted a link and showed it in use...😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 2:20 PM, azureglo said: Setter=positioning/gluing (allegedly) Softener= the stuff that makes decals go in to panel lines, round curves, take a trip to your nans etc and is much more useful. Decals= all are not the same, use the Mr Hobby stuff with Begemot and you'll get a Jackson Pollock, Xtradecals/Microscale decals are made for use with Microsol/Set and so on. The only universal solutions are the Daco ones pictured here and available from @little-cars . They come in 3 strengths, work brilliantly and progressively with any silk screen/Alps decals*, are made by an expert decal maker and should be in every modellers tool kit. Currently what I use is the following Problems: Some solutions will react with/attack acrylic gloss coats, lots of variables, none will make a dent in my preferred gloss coat which is Mr Super UV cut 112 ( also known in the car trade as LS184 (29184) Nitron High) which is a nitrocellulose lacquer *Some decals will not respond to solutions at all, like Peddinghaus & Drawdecals as they are printed on a Roland sign printer and not silk screened. For these I use incredibly hot water on a paper towel, which incidentally works wonders with ordinary decals and helps raise your pain threshold for having boiling water on your hands- useful if you're caught by the enemy and tortured. Others: Some folk like to use neat cellulose thinner : http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2006/10/stuff_eng_benshahar_bf110.htm There's a good technique involving diluted Future/Klear: can cause problems with acrylic gloss coats for obvious reasons, its pinned to the top of this forum and I used it here Postscript: "Like all of life, there is no simple answer to your question only a journey of joyous discovery with much handing over of cash, grasshopper.." I used Micro Sol to the Peddinghaus decals for my 1/72 P-51D Sunny VIII build with good respond. I was wery satisfied with the result... Cheers / André Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker6Recon Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 9:20 PM, azureglo said: useful if you're caught by the enemy and tortured What if they put hot water in other, more sensitive places? With that said, you have made me worry. I live in the Philippines, and finding products is less than easy with few choices available. I have microset/microsol, but I have not used them yet as I have not started my first build yet. Anyway, I would love for a simplified list, something like this. Paint Clear coat gloss Microset Decal Microsol Clear coat gloss/satin/flat Weather Final clear coat of finish of choice (gloss/semi/satin/matte/flat) Not sure if that is accurate, but it seems to be the way people go about painting, decaling and finally sealing in all their hard work. Thanks in advance, Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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