longshanks Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Next small project to take away, a WWII steam tug full of character These were a series of emergency tugs built from 1943 to '45. A total of 182 of these little prefabricated tugs were built in modular units, by several different yards around the U.K. often by women workers. Unusual in being of a hard chine design and all welded construction. Plenty of further info available here http://www.steamtugbrent.org/history-of-tid-class-tugs.html Keel shear piece laid started on the frames Hopefully along with Stuart's we'll inspire some scratch building. I hope you'll join us for the trip Kev 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Nice! Great subject and it looks like a really good set of drawings to work from. How big? what scale? Will it it go in another diorama? This should be good! 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Another scratch tug An excellent start, now I'll see how it should be done properly. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 My Dad worked on steam tugs on the Manchester Ship Canal back in the days and despite the paintings of his photos. One name comes to mind 'Arrow' and I am lead to believe that one of his tugs is now sectionalized (cut in half) in a Gateshead (?) maritime museum. I always fancied a model so I will watch with great interest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: How big? what scale? Will it it go in another diorama? So demanding 😉 Just over 68 feet long @ 1/200 = 104mm (4"). As to diorama, not sure yet but I'm hoping to put it in a picture frame as used before 1 hour ago, Courageous said: now I'll see how it should be done properly. Lol, how about we both muddle through together 🙂 1 hour ago, Mancunian airman said: I always fancied a model so Now is the time to do it. Handsome looking ship, built at Leith I wonder if they have any plans? Update all frames added with the obligatory pen for size 18 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: looks like a really good set of drawings to work from I laughed when I saw your comment Steve. I was looking around for plans and came across the above plan for sale on ebay. The plan came from the sales picture but don't tell anyone Thanks for looking in Kev Edited January 20, 2019 by longshanks 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 She looks pretty.... 2 hours ago, longshanks said: Update all frames added with the obligatory pen for size Well smart. Stuart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 5 hours ago, longshanks said: Just over 68 feet long @ 1/200 = 104mm (4"). As to diorama, not sure yet but I'm hoping to put it in a picture frame as used before Quite small then, in fact you could call it a TIDdler... 🤪 Ahhhh... I do crack myself up sometimes...😬 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I like the look of this Kev, I reckon I better be along for the ride, being a slight tug nut from way back. They're rather a handsome craft & I'm sure you'll be able to produce a Handsome model of same. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'll be watching, as well. Looking forward to another one of your terrific builds Kev. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 19 hours ago, Bandsaw Steve said: Quite small then, in fact you could call it a TIDdler... 🤪 or Boaty McTugFace 16 hours ago, stevehnz said: being a slight tug nut from way back Oh Dear another confession on BM 😉 Don't tell anyone but I agree. They have a certain charm/character about them 15 hours ago, JohnWS said: Looking forward to another one of your terrific builds Kev. No pressure then Looking more boaty . . . . Bottom added the holes are to allow the gas to escape when I glue the sides on (I hope) I don't think I mentioned I'm building it to the waterline plus 3/4mm so it will look OK if I go down the water route That's it for today, please feel free to ask any questions Thanks for looking in Kev 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, longshanks said: being a slight tug nut from way back 2 hours ago, longshanks said: Oh Dear another confession on BM 😉 Don't tell anyone but I agree. They have a certain charm/character about them I am so pleased you answered that first cos I would have been banned for what I was thinking of when Steve put that Anyway very nice looking Tug reminds me of the harbour tug I built a while back along similar lines anyway And what happened to the soapdish Fairlady you where on with beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Looks like their is a bit of a tug following. I hope I don't live to regret not putting fume holes in my tug bottom. Yours is coming along great, will be interesting how you tackle the aft hull. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Interesting. I'm in! Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Yes, very interesting. What with this and Stuart's Tug, we have an interesting theme going on here. Terry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Terry1954 said: Yes, very interesting. What with this and Stuart's Tug, we have an interesting theme going on here. Maybe you should start a tug thread... Stuart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 On 21/01/2019 at 20:55, beefy66 said: reminds me of the harbour tug I built a while back American jobby if I recall right ? On 21/01/2019 at 21:47, Courageous said: I hope I don't live to regret not putting fume holes in my tug bottom. I would guess if you're going to get a problem it would be within 24 hours. More of a concern if you're using really thin card or a large area under supported. Not sure yet how I'm going to deal with the bow and stern . . . . On 22/01/2019 at 01:28, Martian Hale said: Interesting. I'm in! Good to have you on board 12 hours ago, Terry1954 said: What with this and Stuart's Tug, we have an interesting theme going on here. A good place to start scratch building, perhaps not in such a small scale. See what you think at the end. 28 minutes ago, Courageous said: Maybe you should start a tug thread... Have you been sniffing the glue again You don't want you're sides sagging ............ 😎 Kev 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 First task was to make a template of the deck sheer (curve of the deck) Got it roughly to shape, then fixed a piece of 1mm stock to the sheer. Hold template to the stock piece and draw along the top,a bit of sanding . . Hey presto we have a sheer profile. Using it here for the bottom of the superstructure Sides of structure fixed together with a couple of light touches of CA. Shaping them this way ensures both are the same. Sliding a blade between cracks the CA Mapping out the sides and showing the tools I use for measuring/drawing and would consider essential for scratch building. Ruler with grid lines and a steel edge for cutting. The grid makes it so easy for cutting/marking parallel/90' cuts. Two quid at the Range. Next a digital caliper checking card thickness/ tube diameter and measuring . £12-15 The last is the in Incra Metric 150mm Precision Rule Marking Ruler, not cheap at around £25 but worth it if you want to measure precisely / consistently to 0.25mm. Last for today I've been figuring out how to make the stanchions for the bulwarks (side fence). The bulwarks lean in and are extremely small/ delicate in 0.35mm card. From the frame profiles I've cut out the stanchions leaving a good size piece below deck. Cutting the deck iwo of the bulkheads with a razor saw allowed the stanchions to slide in and could be glued to the bulkheads. That's the plan anyway Thanks for stopping by and all the support Kev 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Always learning how to do things from your builds here Kev will you be filling up the space between the hull supports or are you just going to add the sides as is. beefy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Great steps there Kev. I'm particularly paying attention to the bulwark construction as I've yet to do this. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 18 hours ago, beefy66 said: will you be filling up the space between the hull supports or are you just going to add the sides as is Tried to plate it but even with this simple shape it became problematic, so I've filled in the bow & stern sections with filler. Filler of choice Isopon P38 Easy Sand. This is a car body filler which adheres well to plastic (I normally sand the the area of contact) metal etc. As it says on the tin it's easy to sand, so you're sanding away your model as you blend it. Dries in 15/20 mins. All the stanchions in place. Dividers used to assist in getting height right (they vary from bow to stern). Behind you can see the sections used to form the stanchions Hull skins on over filler Next shots should show every thing blended in. Tip don't apply to much filler at on time, lot easier to build it up in stages. Thanks for looking in Kev 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Parvis Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Being in the US, I have to say I find it quite amusing that your metal ruler made for measuring metric units is "Made in the USA" considering we still muck around with Imperial units here. Looks an interesting project and it is good to see the method. Matt 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandsaw Steve Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Nice work.👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Plastic/filler faired in, odd touch up required but that can come later Good enough for government work Kev 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 20 hours ago, longshanks said: Filler of choice Isopon P38 Easy Sand. Looks like the use of this has worked very well so I better get some of this for my next scratch boat build. Great work on the stanchions, I wish I was a little bit more forward thinking about this on my build. A good bit of work from you Kev Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Turn my back for an instant and now they are ALL building tugs............. Lovely work and once again a great primer. Personally wish it had been 1/72 but hey ho - I appreciate that wouldn't fit the box. Looking forward to seeing how you are going to facet those upper plates as per pic 3 T.I.D 164. Also keen to see how you tackle the tyres .. +/or the "rope" bumper/fender on the bow. Keep it coming Rob 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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