Colin W Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Hi Chaps Now for something completely different. How about one of these for your front line defence? I got this from Victoria Hobby centre in Melbourne Australia in January 2003 when I was there for the Avalon air show. It's been lurking in the stash for 15 years so this GB will be it's moment in the sun. The parts It looks pretty easy so the hard part might be the silver finish and the canopy. The canopy is currently taped to the window using the glorious Thailand sun to make it clear again. The canopy also has a dent and I found a fax ( remember those? ) in the box which I sent to the manufacturer in 2003 asking for a new one. After 15 years and no reply i don't think they are going to send me one. A challenge for later? Colin w 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) Nice and great but challenging project! On mine I only got as far as sanding the rough surface.... time to dig it out again?!? What Sqd will you do? Edited January 13, 2019 by exdraken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 A challenge indeed but so long as the various components fit together well I'm sure a lovely model will come forth. There's certainly some interesting parts included. With only two construction stages you'll be finished within the first week 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Having just read the review of this kit on Modelling Madness I think the fitting of components is going to be a bit of a challenge as well. Roll on Saturday so I can make a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Very nice ! I tried to buy one of these kits less than a month ago on that well know online auction site but was outbid, I'm very curious to see what I missed, will watch this with interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I love the Mystère, very redolent of the Cold War and quite colourful too. These jets were used by the Armée de L'Air for a long time finally being replaced by the Alpha Jet so watch your markings choice fits into the time frame! Another thread I'll be following. Good luck with your build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Cheers guys. The markings are a bit elusive as all non-Israeli scheme seem to be natural metal with a red stripe. I'll investigate the kit scheme as it's unlikely that we will see many others. Colin Just making a start on the cockpit which is actually quite good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Here is the start for this GB. The cockpit and air intakes is all one lump of resin. No need for additional nose weight. The kit seat is ok but I 'll use this one from PJ products as it's better. Cockpit secured and painted dark grey. I can fit the instrument panel later. Since the undercarriage doors are closed on the ground I don't see the need to fit the resin bays. Also the resin undercarriage doors are a bit rough and different sizes to the holes so I decided not to use them either. I have just plated over the holes with plastic card and will fill and scribe later on when I do the lower fuselage. Colin 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Nice progress Colin. I was wondering how well the resin insert would fit into the nose area; an elegant solution to a complicated area of this machine if it isn't too much trouble to get a good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Nice progress Colin, pleased to see the resin fits the IM plastic reasonably well. The tip of the bullet in the intake should be clear perspex, I think its the dielectric cover for a gun laying radar, it shows up quite nicely in the photo here Another thing is the gun link collector fairings were smaller on the earlier RR Tay engined versions and the larger ones shown here were fitted to later H-S Verdon engined aircraft. Later aircraft also had a slab tail whilst earlier used conventional elevators. Some of these features got conflated in the Azur kit. EDIT: Just found this great walkround for the type, the first picture shows the rubbing plate for the slab tailplane but looking at this review on Modelling Madness I can see they're included on the etched fret. One last thing, I'm not sure if the colour scheme depicted in the box decals are appropriate for a 1950's period Mystère, I think its for a 1970s/1980s era weapons trainer of EC.1/8 Saintonge. There are these Berna Decals for the type though, available here and here. Alternatively, you could find a 1950's scheme and adjust the kit markings accordingly. Edited January 20, 2019 by Wez extra gen added 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 13/01/2019 at 11:32, Colin W said: The canopy is currently taped to the window using the glorious Thailand sun to make it clear again. that works (temporarily) for decals, but plastic yellowing is a chemical change according to various threads on here in the past. Useful to know as I have a couple of these stashed. Isradecal did do an all-singing all-dancing sheet for the IAF version but that's OOP. A quick lok at Wiki notes the Indian Airforce had 110, as opposed to 61 for the Israelis (which i did not know) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mystère_IV this was also on wiki, note the funky Patroullie de France scheme, and the Indian, which is pretty simple. By Newresid [email protected] - Own work work travail personnel dessin vectoriel vector drawing, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10754526 bit off topic, but a neat bit of film of the Patrouille De France Mystere IVs here which might amuse, and has a few good close ups 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Interesting how the Suez striped aircraft is captioned as being from 1960... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Wez said: Interesting how the Suez striped aircraft is captioned as being from 1960... Hmm, that is strange, perhaps nobody bothered to clean the stripes off this one and it was still going around Dijon in this scheme during the 60s? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Thanks for the info on the schemes everyone. I quite like the Patrouille De France scheme but it would make me ineligible for the GB so I'll stick to silver and a stripe. Thanks for the pictures posted Troy and the video clip. These planes have the early French seat and its green with a simple loop for the blind/ejection handle. Maybe I'll use the kit seat after all. The sheet is obviously well used as here is the Mystere at Flixton done in the 2-EG scheme from the above set, complete with Suez Stripes. Meanwhile in Norwich this silver bird has the additional intakes for the later engine as noted by Wez above. Both planes have the bulged link collectors and the plates for the all flying tail. The clear dome on the nose is actually supplied in the kit on the canopy vacform sheet. Both planes also have the nose doors open which should be incorrect. Squadron 8 seems to be the most popular as 8-NS is the kit scheme, 8-NE is on the sheet above and the Midland Air Museum have chosen 8-NV for their example. Colin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Colin W said: Squadron 8 seems to be the most popular as 8-NS is the kit scheme, 8-NE is on the sheet above and the Midland Air Museum have chosen 8-NV for their example. I think that's because they were the last users of the type, I guess it's only natural that their aircraft ended up in museums. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 Thanks to the suggestions on Modelling Madness I made a few preliminary checks and have got quite a lot done this week. I sanded the wings quite a lot so when joined they fit the root stubs taking away a lot of work. Fuselage went together easily with the exhaust fitted to a piece of sprue inside. Some filling still required but not too much. Classic 50s jet shape! Colin 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 That surely was a good achievement! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Taking shape well Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 A few more hours spent on the main airframe leaves it looking pretty much the same. It's had several sanding sessions with wet and dry down to 2500 grit so now ready for the silver once the canopy is on. After 4 weeks in the Thai sun the canopy is much better and almost clear. It's very poorly made though and doesn't fit well at all . The cockpit is very good. The instrument panel and coaming are 1 piece with a pe panel face and some nifty rudder pedals. I'll stick some gauges to the white and put the pe on top once it's finished. Colin 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) Hopefully you can convince the canopy to fit into place as everything else is looking great Edited January 29, 2019 by Col. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 Hi Chaps Seat finished and installed. I decided not to guess what the French seat looked like so went with the Martin Baker. Here's a picture of the underside which has received a lot of attention. Main gear doors and front nose door replaced with plastic card and filler. The whole thing polished with 2500 wet and dry. Colin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Great progress!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Well is been a bit of a challenge this weekend with 3 steps forward and 2 steps back. Here's the underside. Primer finished, silver done in wheel wells and top coat finished. Undercarriage fitted and tail added. Meanwhile on top, the silver finish was not good enough and many scratches shone through. Also the rough surface of the original moulds on the fuselage didn't match to the smoothness of the wings. Only 1 option, to sand it down again. I didn't take a picture but here's how it looks now. Since I have to paint it again I decided to paint the walkways and anti glare strip first. The centre section of the wing will be darker with the different base coat. Of course during polishing the top I knocked off the delicate PE olio linkages I spent last week fitting. I've chosen a scheme. 12-ZE appeared at the 1955 Paris air show so this will be my scheme. I've printed out the decals ready for preparing the finish. Colin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Custom printed decals? Nice touch Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 I did manage to get a bit more done last night after I posted. Anti glare panel and walkways masked and white added to the fuselage as foundation for the red pinstripe. Colin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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