JohnT Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 RIAT saying today that the Spanish Navy Harrier will fly at RIAT in July. Might be one pf the last chances to see one over here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet-mech Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/10/2019 at 12:27 PM, JohnT said: RIAT saying today that the Spanish Navy Harrier will fly at RIAT in July. Might be one pf the last chances to see one over here. Hi mate The display is a 2 aircraft demo. Crew are yet to begin training. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberleutnant Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Nice! Saw one of them at Farnborough last year and was a gem in what was otherwise a very disappointing airshow. Going to RIAT for the first time this year I think. I shocked how poor Farnborough was after all its history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet-mech Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Oberleutnant said: Nice! Saw one of them at Farnborough last year and was a gem in what was otherwise a very disappointing airshow. Going to RIAT for the first time this year I think. I shocked how poor Farnborough was after all its history. Sadly that is not the fault of the organisation. Farnborough is a huge built up area that is growing very fast. Regulations from the CAA have made it almost impossible to display aircraft to their full potential. Height limits were raised from 100ft to 800ft minimum. High speed manoeuvres raised to 1200ft and above. These regulations make displays rather risky, even more so than with the old pre Shoreham regs. So aircraft can no longer fly in a safe manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner14 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, jet-mech said: Sadly that is not the fault of the organisation. Farnborough is a huge built up area that is growing very fast. Regulations from the CAA have made it almost impossible to display aircraft to their full potential. Height limits were raised from 100ft to 800ft minimum. High speed manoeuvres raised to 1200ft and above. These regulations make displays rather risky, even more so than with the old pre Shoreham regs. So aircraft can no longer fly in a safe manner. Sorry to pick you up on your post, but aircraft can and are flown in a safe manner. More accurate to say that the safety limits for air displays restricts the manoeuvres and display heights to give as safe a margin as possible. Edited February 2, 2019 by Sundowner14 .sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberleutnant Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, jet-mech said: Sadly that is not the fault of the organisation. Farnborough is a huge built up area that is growing very fast. Regulations from the CAA have made it almost impossible to display aircraft to their full potential. Height limits were raised from 100ft to 800ft minimum. High speed manoeuvres raised to 1200ft and above. These regulations make displays rather risky, even more so than with the old pre Shoreham regs. So aircraft can no longer fly in a safe manner. Even with that in mind the line up of aircraft was very poor. Several planes went up twice to fill the display gaps, the BOBMF did one fly past it was just so poor. 100 year anniversary of the RAF and no recognition of that at all - no special or anything. Retirement of the Tornado? No show. New F-35? No show. Even a Typhoon? No show. A lot of the planes leave now before the display weekend. The actual display of the Harrier and F-16 were excellent but that was it. Still charging full whack. You should see the scathing reviews from punters as well as formal reviewers. The free Eastbourne Airshow last year had a better line up. I won't be going again. Worth a read if you fancy it: http://www.airshows.co.uk/reports/uk/2018/farnborough-international-airshow/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet-mech Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 23 hours ago, Oberleutnant said: Even with that in mind the line up of aircraft was very poor. Several planes went up twice to fill the display gaps, the BOBMF did one fly past it was just so poor. 100 year anniversary of the RAF and no recognition of that at all - no special or anything. Retirement of the Tornado? No show. New F-35? No show. Even a Typhoon? No show. A lot of the planes leave now before the display weekend. The actual display of the Harrier and F-16 were excellent but that was it. Still charging full whack. You should see the scathing reviews from punters as well as formal reviewers. The free Eastbourne Airshow last year had a better line up. I won't be going again. Worth a read if you fancy it: http://www.airshows.co.uk/reports/uk/2018/farnborough-international-airshow/ You probably won't be going again anyway as the next may be the last and current plan is for no public days. Mon-Thurs only. Public days subject to participating nations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberleutnant Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, jet-mech said: You probably won't be going again anyway as the next may be the last and current plan is for no public days. Mon-Thurs only. Public days subject to participating nations. Really? That's a sad end to a once great show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Oberleutnant said: Really? That's a sad end to a once great show. I agree with you on that. Growing up here in Chicago my friends and I always wanted to attend the Farnborough show. Edited February 2, 2019 by Corsairfoxfouruncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner14 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 17 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: I agree with you on that. Growing up here in Chicago my friends and I always wanted to attend the Farnborough show. Well, fear not. Whilst I admit to a certain amount of bias, RIAT and has been for some time a far better all round Airshow. If you want to see a few aircraft, visit trade stands and get some free marketing material though, SBAC will do. But if Carlsberg did Airshows, they’d look at RIAT first, and I would recommend it to all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberleutnant Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 20 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: I agree with you on that. Growing up here in Chicago my friends and I always wanted to attend the Farnborough show. Man I love Chicago! What a great city. Have a friend and his wife living out there for work and have visited. Bit cold over there at the moment, mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, Oberleutnant said: Man I love Chicago! So do I ... Bit tired of it though. I grew up 350 miles north of Chicago in Dairy farm & Logging country. Moved here as a kid and love the Architecture, People, and history. However i miss the slow easier pace of the north-woods. Holler if you're ever in the neighborhood, maybe we can meet. Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberleutnant Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: So do I ... Bit tired of it though. I grew up 350 miles north of Chicago in Dairy farm & Logging country. Moved here as a kid and love the Architecture, People, and history. However i miss the slow easier pace of the north-woods. Holler if you're ever in the neighborhood, maybe we can meet. Dennis Will do buddy, thank you. I prefer the country life most of the time too! Guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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