SaminCam Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thanks gents! @limeypilot, Ian would love to see more work on your 111, the work so far on the cockpit and interior is the main inspiration for what I've done (though not as well!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Aaargh! Spoke too soon on the fit... the fuselage windows don't want to play ball at all, they're a bit over sized in all directions and too thick so don't sit flush. I've spent the last hour sanding two of them thinner, I've had to take maybe 0.3mm off, then polishing back up with micromesh so they are see through. 2 down, 6 to go so won't be much progress to see for the next few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 I've been chipping away at the He-111 for the last couple of weeks and got onto the painting stage this weekend. The surface was primed with Vallejo ghost grey - I read somewhere that this works best with the air pressure turned up so went for 30psi and it laid down really nicely. Next I pre-shaded all the panel lines and rivets and now I'm adding the underside RLM65 in thin layers. I think I'll give it one more coat and then mask it off for painting the upper surfaces. This evening's photos are lousy as the light is rubbish but you should be able to get the idea of how I'm covering up the preshading layer by layer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Looks better in natural light: 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 Next up I've covered up the underside paint work and masked the camouflage pattern on top. I'm going with BoB scheme on the xtradecal sheet, should look good with the yellow spinners matching the yellow nose of my recent bf109e. I'm still learning how best to add texture (maybe not quite the right word?) to my airbrushing and I'm trying a few things with this build. I think the rivets will help but I'm a bit worried that the dunkelgrun and schwarzgrun will end up too uniform, dark and boring. Here my first coat of rlm71 is thinned down and doesn't cover the preshading but gets the colour started: For the second coat I go back over the preshading with the rlm71 shot from close range with fine nozzle (0.15mm) so as to soften the dark lines and start to add shading. More work needed to tone down the preshading some more but I think this will result in a nonuniform finish after maybe two more careful coats. I might also try highlights with a thinned and lightened coat given that I'm feeling braver and more in control of the airbrush (famous last words?!?) Half the fun of this is learning through trial and error but any tips would be greatly appreciated as well! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Only a little bit done this weekend, glorious weather gets in the way of modelling! dunkelgrun finished off and remasked ready for the schwarzgrun: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchen Modeller Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Painting looking good so far. I think doing some highlights with a lighter colour could look really good so you should definitely look at that. Make sure you practice before hitting the model though - I’ve messed things up trying to do the same. It’s a big model so it shouldn’t be too difficult- use v thinned mix and it will be quite forgiving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Hello, even if it looks in natural light better, for me the preshading looks too much trough or the paint coat is too thin. Scale effect matters. Otherwise great work on that. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA80A2AR Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 looking good. is the main cockpit canopy 1 or 2 bits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Thanks @SA80A2AR, cockpit is split into top, bottom, one sidewall and a front dome. At the moment I've got the front dome tacked on with pva so i can take it off and add the gun at the end 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, SaminCam said: At the moment I've got the front dome tacked on with pva so i can take it off and add the gun at the end Is PVA glue the same used by carpenters to glue wood? Or is it the one used at school? Read it was good for gluing weights since it doesn't attack the plastic. Nor it fogs clear parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Wow! That looks really not bad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 @Sturmovik I've got cheap craft glue so probably more like school stuff, not really sure the difference though. It dries clear but not that strong so tend to only use it for temporary gluing. I've successfully glued weights in place with araldite - it sets solid and doesn't seem to react to the plastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 On 2/25/2019 at 2:47 AM, bbudde said: Hello, even if it looks in natural light better, for me the preshading looks too much trough or the paint coat is too thin. Scale effect matters. Otherwise great work on that. Cheers I do agree with you bbude. Scale effect does indeed matter and the preshading is still far too noticeable... But hey, @SaminCam, at the end of the day it is your model, and yours alone. Your choice! It still looks spectacular! JR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, jean said: But hey, @SaminCam, at the end of the day it is your model, and yours alone. Your choice! It still looks spectacular! Yes of course. No critism at that point, maybe a hint. His model, his choice. If he feels satisfied with it, everything is fine. As said before great work on that. Cheers Edited February 27, 2019 by bbudde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tail-Dragon Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Looks great so far, the Airfix kit looks like a fine choice. If I might be allowed a suggestion ... ... when it comes to weathering, what has worked for me is, after the decals are on, and after the first flat coat, you can get some great results by getting some pastel chalks from an art store, sanding the on old sandpaper to get fine dust, and scrubbing the dust on lightly with an old, large brush over the surfaces (including decals) Brown and black for exhaust stains, white, light and dark greys for faded paint. It fades the paint perfectly, knocks down the overly bright decals and fades the markings, and if your not satisfied, you can remove with a pencil eraser, or a wet paper towel. When your happy, give it another shot of flat coat to seal everything. (I'm not trying to hijack the thread, just offering a suggestion as I've weather a HE-111, hope this is taken in that light) 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Thanks gents, all advice greatly appreciated. The Schwarzgrun went down nicely and this evening I got the masking off... Sorry for the lousy low light photo! I'm quite happy with the result so far; the shading on the darker green is about right for me and stops it from being just a dark block of colour. The lighter shade needs a few touch ups and I'll take that opportunity to calm down the preshading one more time. @Tail-Dragonthanks for the tips on pastels, I've not tried them yet but maybe will give it a go. On previous builds I've used artist oils for weathering, what do you think about using both, where would pastels work well and where oils? Another question people have probably thought about before: what's the best way to do the squadron bars (right phrase?)? The xtradecal sheet has them, they are a bit pink coloured, and thought they might look better sprayed on using another mask, any experience or examples of either method out there? Thanks for the help and discussion! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tail-Dragon Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) Hi I do actually use artist oils as a pin wash (I personally have never been a fan of preshading, just a personal choice). I pinwash after decaling and the first flat coat, I mix darker versions of the background colour for panel lines, a little heavier for access hatches etc. and grey or black for control surfaces - not to heavy or thick as your trying to replicate shadows. Thin heavily and apply with a fine brush to let the mix flow into the lines. When it's almost dry, I will wipe in the airflow direction with a cotton rag SLIGHTLY moistened with thinner. Then, when completely dry (I wait at least 2 days) I'll flatcoat again, then do the pastel chalk and seal with even more flat coat (I do go through a lot of it!) About waiting several days to carry on - BOY, did I learn that the hard way - the biggest mess you ever saw is mixing pastels and oils that aren't fully dried! About the formation bars - I did the same markings you are using, but didn't like the look of those bars, so I didn't apply them. Being as they were a short term, temporary application for a specific period, and as I found photo's of that particular aircraft without them, I felt justified. Ever since I saw the movie 'Battle of Britain' when it was first released I've like the look of the HE-111 - it's menacing! (here's a link to mine, if you want to see it) https://www.flickr.com/photos/150700625@N03/40955439072/in/album-72157683480097391/ Edited February 28, 2019 by Tail-Dragon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Tail-Dragon said: Hi I do actually use artist oils as a pin wash (I personally have never been a fan of preshading, just a personal choice). I pinwash after decaling and the first flat coat, I mix darker versions of the background colour for panel lines, a little heavier for access hatches etc. and grey or black for control surfaces - not to heavy or thick as your trying to replicate shadows. Thin heavily and apply with a fine brush to let the mix flow into the lines. When it's almost dry, I will wipe in the airflow direction with a cotton rag SLIGHTLY moistened with thinner. Then, when completely dry (I wait at least 2 days) I'll flatcoat again, then do the pastel chalk and seal with even more flat coat (I do go through a lot of it!) About waiting several days to carry on - BOY, did I learn that the hard way - the biggest mess you ever saw is mixing pastels and oils that aren't fully dried! About the formation bars - I did the same markings you are using, but didn't like the look of those bars, so I didn't apply them. Being as they were a short term, temporary application for a specific period, and as I found photo's of that particular aircraft without them, I felt justified. Ever since I saw the movie 'Battle of Britain' when it was first released I've like the look of the HE-111 - it's menacing! (here's a link to mine, if you want to see it) https://www.flickr.com/photos/150700625@N03/40955439072/in/album-72157683480097391/ Thanks! Understood with the oils and pastels and great to see a photo of the real thing. I agree about the he-111, think I saw one of the posters with black silhouettes for identification when I was at school and have always loved the shape. Yours is stunning, both interior and exterior are 👌 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Tail-Dragon said: pastel chalks from an art store, This is what I used when I built in 1/48 but I don't weather in 1/72 now . Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Morning light 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tail-Dragon Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Hi She is sure looking sharp, now. Just out of curiosity, what kind of paints are you using, the colours look spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Tail-Dragon said: Hi She is sure looking sharp, now. Just out of curiosity, what kind of paints are you using, the colours look spot on! Thanks mate, I've used mr hobby acrylics rlm65, rlm71 and rlm70 thinned about 50:50 with tamiya x-20a. I've been really impressed with these, they spray great and colours look good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 I finished touching up the painting and got a couple of thin coats of aqua gloss on at the weekend and this evening started to add the larger decals. I think I'm going to mask and spray the white bars on the tail and wing but need to replenish my stocks of flat white so this will happen after all the decals are on and another coat of varnish has gone on. Still lots of work to do but starting to come to life now! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaminCam Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 HI all, in sight of the finish line now. Since the last post I've added all the decals (there are a lot of small ones included in the airfix kit) and painted and attached parts like the guns, exhausts, undercarriage, etc. All of this went together without too much hassle though the clear parts with the guns on the underside needed a bit of fettling to fit and might now get some fine filler before a touch up with paint. I'm going to paint the squadron bars as shown on the xtradecal sheet and the photo below. In the photo it looks like the Luftwaffe might not have been very good at masking off the area near these bars and I'm debating whether to have a go at recreating this effect, risky though! Once I've added the gun position on top and sorted out the props she'll get another coat of varnish and then some final weathering. Thanks for taking a look! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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