Tbolt Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, 12by12 said: The PF needs more than just a new intake, the fuselage halves would need changing, and the cockpit interior and the canopy. What's the difference in the fuselage? Also I know the windscreen is different but what's different about the canopy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12by12 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Well I remember buying Hasegawa's attempt at going the other way, PFM into F. Yes, I wrote canopy when I meant screen, but surely the cockpit has to change to fit the extension of the overall canopy length and AIUI that means the fuselage halves. If I'm wrong, maybe it's kinda possible. Anyhow, it did not work out well with the Hase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, 12by12 said: Well I remember buying Hasegawa's attempt at going the other way, PFM into F. Yes, I wrote canopy when I meant screen, but surely the cockpit has to change to fit the extension of the overall canopy length and AIUI that means the fuselage halves. If I'm wrong, maybe it's kinda possible. Anyhow, it did not work out well with the Hase. I don't know how different the cockpit opening is as I don't know the type that well. But like I said I can't see Airfix doing a PF, so if it can be done hopefully an AM set will appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Tbolt said: What's the difference in the fuselage? Also I know the windscreen is different but what's different about the canopy? Frankly speaking whole front fuselage (forward of wing leading edge) is different. It has been caught precisely by AZ in their Frescos. The gun pack is shorter (3x23mm instead of 1x37 and 2x23mm), the fixed canopy part is noticeably longer and the fuselage diameter (both height and width of all the forward frames) is significantly greater in PF than in older (-17A/17F) variants, which were using virtually unchanged MiG-15 nose. In simple words the A/F (and-15) nose is more conical, whereas the PF one is almost tubular. Cheers Michael 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Nichols Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_76899_start_80.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjuro Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Workbench update Airfix MiG-17F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Sanjuro said: Workbench update Airfix MiG-17F Thanks, good stuff. Let's hope Airfix will nail the shape. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 This kit gets a test build in the latest Airfix magazine issue. Had a quick flick through the article and seen that wing leading edge is still wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Col. said: This kit gets a test build in the latest Airfix magazine issue. Had a quick flick through the article and seen that wing leading edge is still wrong That's a pity. Wrong wrong, or fixable wrong..? Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG-Mech Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Does it still look like MiG-17 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Hook said: That's a pity. Wrong wrong, or fixable wrong..? Cheers, Andre I'll be able to tell you after buying one and having a go at it Hopefully there's sufficient material in the lower wing part to get a bit medieval and sharpen the inner leading edge section. 21 hours ago, MiG-Mech said: Does it still look like MiG-17 ? Mostly yes but could have easily been better. Edited October 6, 2019 by Col. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) For all the talk of the "error" with the wing, who is actually going to bother? A handful of purists in internet sites like this or, the no doubt thousands of others who will simply snap it up regardless because they're getting an otherwise nice and reasonably priced replica. How many people, upon seeing what is actually a very small model are even going to know one way or the other? Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about. It's unmistakably a MiG -17, warts and all. Now, if some believe the kit is fatally flawed, unbuildable and, unbuyable then, that is their prerogative and I won't presume to debate their wisdom. I'm not going to get bogged down in a debate about the why's and wherefores of how it happened. Airfix has doubtless made a commercial decision to get the kit out there and, if it sells well then, the decision is justified. I'm not going to condone or condemn Airfix. I'm just happy to ( or will be) to get my grubby mitts on this kit in quite large numbers!😊 . Others will disagree. I respect that. Let's just enjoy the kit. We're all modellers after all and, we don't all take the same approach to the hobby. I am by the way, genuinely sorry if the model disappoints some of you Allan Ps, I am a fully paid up member of the T L A R (That Looks About Right) school of thought!😂 ( Cue cries of "send him to Specsavers!" ) Edited October 6, 2019 by Albeback52 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultures1 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 22 hours ago, MiG-Mech said: Does it still look like MiG-17 ? From what I can see in the Airfix magazine (not having my hands on the plastic yet): Is it a perfect 1/72 reduction of a MiG-17? No Is it the best 1/72 MiG-17 thus far? Yes I'm thinking like @Col. that a bit of inner leading edge sharpening might be in order ... or not! It looks to me like a really nice model (albeit from the build photos) and I am looking forward to getting my mitts on it 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Vultures1 said: From what I can see in the Airfix magazine (not having my hands on the plastic yet): Is it a perfect 1/72 reduction of a MiG-17? No Is it the best 1/72 MiG-17 thus far? Yes I'm thinking like @Col. that a bit of inner leading edge sharpening might be in order ... or not! It looks to me like a really nice model (albeit from the build photos) and I am looking forward to getting my mitts on it Exactly! Just the point I was going to make. I shall be getting a couple of these. Edited October 6, 2019 by Wez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG-Mech Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Wez said: Exactly! Just the point I was going to make. I shall be getting a couple of these. Exactly my intention ! Show me any MiG-29A/UB kit, in box or built and I tell you what's so wrong with it. There is always one, who can see mistakes. And many, which nonetheless have fun and can ignore, coz there is no 100% accurate kit and coz, it's just a model. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 Source: https://www.facebook.com/Arma.Models/posts/2502692506485108 V.P. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 The wing kink is there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dave Fleming said: The wing kink is there Ok but what about... Edited October 12, 2019 by Laurent 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12by12 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 A few strokes of the file..and you'll wish you never tried. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 minute ago, 12by12 said: A few strokes of the file..and you'll wish you never tried. That sums up my modelling ability very succinctly! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Nichols Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1578316.html#1578316 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Nick Nichols said: http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1578316.html#1578316 https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95825&start=7950#p2254551 V.P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GROWLER Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) Talked with a friend: He saw a photo of the sprues. And he said that with all the beauty and accuracy, lead contours to the original will not possible. But he is a sculptor-jeweler and does not use drawings, but only photographs. And he (like me) will not buy a model. Why do "trinkets"? And do not listen to the opinion of the model community? The same Gabor immediately pointed out to the company 3D problems. Edited October 12, 2019 by GROWLER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of men Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 12:27 AM, Albeback52 said: For all the talk of the "error" with the wing, who is actually going to bother? A handful of purists in internet sites like this or, the no doubt thousands of others who will simply snap it up regardless because they're getting an otherwise nice and reasonably priced replica. How many people, upon seeing what is actually a very small model are even going to know one way or the other? Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about. It's unmistakably a MiG -17, warts and all. Now, if some believe the kit is fatally flawed, unbuildable and, unbuyable then, that is their prerogative and I won't presume to debate their wisdom. I'm not going to get bogged down in a debate about the why's and wherefores of how it happened. Airfix has doubtless made a commercial decision to get the kit out there and, if it sells well then, the decision is justified. I'm not going to condone or condemn Airfix. I'm just happy to ( or will be) to get my grubby mitts on this kit in quite large numbers!😊 . Others will disagree. I respect that. Let's just enjoy the kit. We're all modellers after all and, we don't all take the same approach to the hobby. I am by the way, genuinely sorry if the model disappoints some of you Allan Ps, I am a fully paid up member of the T L A R (That Looks About Right) school of thought!😂 ( Cue cries of "send him to Specsavers!" ) I've got your back, Albeback52... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sroubos Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I see Airfix still opt to go with the deep panel lines. Is this a conscience choice to make them so much more pronounced than on other kit manufacturers' models? Even short-run kits have more subtle panel lines than these. Rest of the kit looks pretty good, if the fit is good I'll probably get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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