Ned Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I was hoping that someone would be building an "Operation Sealion" Tauchpanzer diving tank, because they look a bit mad and I'd love one. The price for the Dragon kit is a bit eye-watering though at £60/£70, I guess that's enough to put anyone off. I've read that the soft vinyl that Dragon used a few years ago doesn't age well, is there any truth in it? Underwater tanks. I wouldn't last 5 minutes. I wonder if the designer ever went down one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Ned said: I've read that the soft vinyl that Dragon used a few years ago doesn't age well, is there any truth in it? Yes sadly there was a Dragon Panther in the recent STGB that was shelved for that very reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Yes sadly there was a Dragon Panther in the recent STGB that was shelved for that very reason. Ah yes, found it. What a disaster. That has put me right off. There's hoses, a cupola seal, and a gun mantle seal all made of the same stuff. I'm not risking my cash on that. Cheers. I don't really get on with Dragon kits anyway, too fiddly for my old eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diases Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Good Luck Guys. Looks Like a good turn out for another Armour build I'm hoping to join in with the very same model you have just been talking about, but I'm committed to the Gulf war build ATM, and have a short work trip coming up in March. But if all goes to plan, (unlikely with Co-vid / Weather at Sea / world travel all conspiring against me) I may be able to start later in the build. If you want any Pic's of the sea loin Tank parts your worried about I can assist. Paul 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Browne Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) Could there be a consistent title formatting for GB threads? Something like: Scale - Manufacturer - Vehicle Just a suggestion...I think this would make it easier to sort the threads and decide which ones to follow. Edited February 7, 2021 by pbrowne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 10 hours ago, pbrowne said: Could there be a consistent title formatting for GB threads? It could be done. Somebody could try to enforce the rule. And it might help with cataloguing the forum, but ... We are human beings (I think), building in our own time, here for our own enjoyment. Personally, I doubt I'd find formal titles fun. (I am, perhaps the worst offender in the titles department, with two threads here, neither mentioning the type, scale nor kit maker.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 07/02/2021 at 00:36, pbrowne said: Could there be a consistent title formatting for GB threads? Hi. Totally understand what you mean but, as Robert said, the modellers on this site do this for a hobby and for fun. Quite a lot of modellers have their own way of promoting their builds (including their name in the title, for example) which they enjoy doing. When you've been on the site a bit longer you'll get the hang of looking through sections fairly quickly. The other thing to do, if you are looking for something in particular on Britmodeller, is not to use the site's own search facility but to use Google and include Britmodeller and what you are interested in finding in the search box. BM's own search doesn't always find what you put in the search box. Kind regards, Stix 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 For those of you struggling with magic tracks or tracks in general, try these they are exactly what they say on the box. Slot them together and run a screwdriver of flat object over the attachment struts and their together. I used a set on the Pz IV build a few years ago, can’t recommend them enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) Does anyone know what the little "things" like handles are that stick out of the turret wall just in front of and below the hatches? I'd never noticed them before today and I now have one less of them than I really should (parts F25 and F26 for anyone building a 1/48 Tamiya kit). Took ages getting it to stick then it pinged off into the ether while I was wrestling with something else 🙄 Andy Just watched the video in the reference section and they're the locks for the front door. Hope mine turns up then. Edited February 14, 2021 by Foxbat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Quick question for anyone ? With the lower six road wheels on these, should the holes be opened for lightening or are they just stamping marks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Quick question for anyone ? With the lower six road wheels on these, should the holes be opened for lightening or are they just stamping marks ? The Dragon wheels are all open so start drilling Dennis. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Quick question for anyone ? With the lower six road wheels on these, should the holes be opened for lightening or are they just stamping marks ? Just thought I had better double check the real thing in case Dragon had it wrong, there are good photos in my Ryton book, walk around photos of the wheels show the six large holes are opened up so you can see the track inside the wheels. The six small holes between each of the large holes are sections of tubing that are welded at the wheel face, connecting the outer and inner wheel sections together. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 We better get drilling @Corsairfoxfouruncle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Quick question for anyone ? With the lower six road wheels on these, should the holes be opened for lightening or are they just stamping marks ? Just had a look Dennis, mine have got holes in. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Ozzy said: Just had a look Dennis, mine have got holes in. I should look as Im just assuming they needed drilling out ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Sort of think the tube between the holes should be hollow too, but I doubt many of us will be drilling those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Ok more fun questions from me ? Just of curiosity when did the German Army switch from Grey to Yellow camouflage on Armor, was it in 1942 or 1943 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Ok more fun questions from me ? Just of curiosity when did the German Army switch from Grey to Yellow camouflage on Armor, was it in 1942 or 1943 ? "HM 1943, no. 181 dated Feb 18, 1943 ordered the three colour system, using the dark yellow as the base colour." That follows what I found about Tigers belonging to Das Reich - they were delivered in the Tropical scheme in late 1942, had whitewash applied over that for the Battle of Kharkov (19-Feb - 15-Mar 1943) and were repainted in the three colour scheme instead of just having the whitewash removed. Andy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 It does seem many armoured vehicles produced in 1942 were being finished in tropical paints, even though they were sent elsewhere other than North Africa. Proof is only in photos, no documentation as yet discovered that specifically states painting orders to that effect, or which batches of production vehicles were being redirected from what were initially slated for delivery to the desert. regards, Jack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Interesting photo currently being discussed over at missinglynx. There is opinion that the base vehicle is in tropen 2 scheme, while the additional skirt armour is the standard 3 colour scheme introduced in Feb. 1943: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missinglynx/viewtopic.php?p=1625963#p1625963 regards, Jack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) On 2/18/2021 at 3:50 PM, JackG said: It does seem many armoured vehicles produced in 1942 were being finished in tropical paints, even though they were sent elsewhere other than North Africa. Proof is only in photos, no documentation as yet discovered that specifically states painting orders to that effect, or which batches of production vehicles were being redirected from what were initially slated for delivery to the desert. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while the "yellow" Pz IIIs after winter 1942/43 were most likely in RAL7028 Dunkelgelb, the ones in autumn 1942 should be in the Tropen 2 scheme, i.e. RAL8020+7027. And what about the Ausf.J vehicles manufactured in winter 1941/42 ? In my opinion, such tanks (e.g. the Viking division in Rostov in June 1942) should wear the Tropen 1 camo of RAL8000+7008. Am I right? Cheers Michael Edited February 20, 2021 by KRK4m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) Yes, it's quite possible the first tropen scheme paints were seen elsewhere other than Africa in 1942, but all we can do is guess the colors when a certain a photo is not showing the standard grey paint. There could have been supplies of the pre-war paint scheme, known as Buntfarbenanstrich, still available. This comprised of green, brown, and an earth yellow. The above is very popular study of a panzer in 1942 and the drive to the Caucasus. Debate continues - is it tropen scheme, is it one tropen combined with grey, which colour is applied first, is it earth yellow, ... There is popular theory(?) that all panzers during tropen issued paints and up to the official ambush scheme of '44, regardless what scheme they were painted, left the factory in one colour, and that the crew/workshops were responsible for adding any secondary or additional colour paints. Edited February 20, 2021 by JackG 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Hello everyone... More questions from the StuG Noob. The standard six road wheels were they all the same size for most of the production. Reason I’m asking is could I paint some replacements from an earlier Panzer grey Stug that were pulled off a damaged earlier model ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Yes, the road wheels became wider when tracks widths were increased from 38 to 40 cm. So road wheels went from 75mm and increased to 90mm. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/missinglynx/panzer-iii-iv-narrow-and-wide-tracks-and-roadwheel-t318860.html regards, Jack 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Hello everyone... Time for more of my Noob questions. These are my top three choices for camouflage. All are from the Eastern front mid 43 to early 44. These are the decals I have, just not sure what would be best for a StuG on the eastern front. Any help I can get on this would be great. Dennis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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