PlaStix Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Well, we're only just near the end of the third week of the Pz.IV STGB but, as it seems to have been really popular so far, I thought I'd suggest the idea of a Single Type Group Build of it's predecessor - the Panzer III. It was a medium tank developed in the 1930s and saw extensive action in World War II. For this STGB, kits built could cover all versions from conception through to all the variants produced and can be in any scale. However - No 'What-ifs' or versions that we’re not actually manufactured please. Series model variants were: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, J, K, L, M and N. Also - based on the Pz.III chassis: StuG III - Assault Gun Panzereobachtungswagen - Observation tank Panzerbefehlswagen III - Command tank Bergepanzer III - Armored Recovery Vehicle - PzKpfw III chassis Sturm-Infanteriegeschütz 33B - Self-propelled heavy assault gun Flammpazer III - Flamethrower Tank Plus the Soviet SU-76i self-propelled gun which was based on the chassis of captured German Panzer IIIs and StuG IIIs SleeperService has also let me know about the SG-122 - where the Soviets used the German Sturmgeschütz III chassis. Only 10 of these were completed. I'm by no means an expert on this tank but it's always been one of my favourites. Please let me know if you are interested in taking part by replying below expressing your interest. Even if we do manage to get the 25 people necessary for this STGB to run signed up, the GB won’t actually start until probably (at the earliest) 2021 although Enzo has let me know there are still some STGB slots still available in 2020. This means you'll have plenty of time to either find a suitable kit in the stash or purchase one (or more!). Interested modellers: 1. PlaStix 2. Ozzy 3. Corsairfoxfouruncle 4. SleeperService 5. fatfingers 6. German Armour 7. vppelt68 8. GREG DESTEC 9. bigfoot 10. SoftScience 11. Robert Stuart 12. Yetifan 13. Retired Bob 14. sdk_uk 15. Foxbat 16. exdraken 17. Chrissy_J 18. John 19. the South African 20. Bullbasket 21. ridinshotgun 22. Agent G 23. ijs302 24. stevej60 ****25. Bonhoff**** 26. nimrod54 27. Silver Fox 28. badger 29. srkirad 30. sampanzer 31. witjas4 32. Jasper Dog 33. Rob S 34. klr 35. modelling minion 36. SimonT 37. shelfspace 38. Mig Eater 39. M3talpig 40. Longbow 41. robw_uk 42. Ned 43. Six97s 44. Andy J 45. Ray W 46. f matthews 47. planecrazee 48. denstore 49. Hewy 50. THEscaleSHOW 51. AaronKSJ 52. sardaukar Could be you? In just over a week acquired the 25 names for this Pz.III Single Type Group Build to happen!! Looks like it should be a great GB! Thank you to everyone who has signed up! If you would like to take part as well please sign up below. Having had a chat with @Enzo Matrix, to avoid clashing with all the other AFV STGBs that will be happening this and next year, we have decided upon the dates: From: Saturday 6th February 2021 to: Sunday 9th May 2021 I know it's over a couple of years away but it will mean we don't have any overlap with the various other AFV STBGs which are happening over the next 24 months. It will give you plenty of time to find or acquire a suitable kit! Kind regards, Stix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I'm in, I think I would build a StuG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I'm in, I think I would build a StuG. Great stuff Ozzy! I'll start a list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 🙋🏻♂️ Me please possibly a Stug. III 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Hi Stix Sounds great. I'd do the FlakPanzer III which PanzerTracts insist was actually built if that's OK. See THIS for a still relevant discussion and HERE for the 1/72 Maco kit. If it is a bit too extreme then a Beobachtungs or BefehlsPanzer III instead. There was also the Soviet SG-122 built on Panzer/Stug III hulls. See HERE for more, not many but they did happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: 🙋🏻♂️ Me please possibly a Stug. III Hi Dennis. Great to have you aboard - I will add you to the list. 1 hour ago, SleeperService said: Hi Stix Sounds great. I'd do the FlakPanzer III which PanzerTracts insist was actually built if that's OK. See THIS for a still relevant discussion and HERE for the 1/72 Maco kit. If it is a bit too extreme then a Beobachtungs or BefehlsPanzer III instead. There was also the Soviet SG-122 built on Panzer/Stug III hulls. See HERE for more, not many but they did happen. Hi SleeperService and thank you for signing up - great to have you taking part. I'm a bit on the fence at the moment with regards the FlakPanzer III. Don't get me wrong, it looks like a great vehicle but 'the internet' seems a bit divided as to whether it was actually built. As I mentioned above, I am certainly no expert on Pz.IIIs but, if we stick within the spirit of the usual Britmodeller STGB guidelines, anything that can't be proved to have been built isn’t usually included. I'm happy to be swayed either way. And I will add the SG-122 to the list above, thank you. Didn’t spot that one before. Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Aye up Stix. It's a HUGE yes from me. Pz III is my all time favourite as it looks like a 'proper' tank. Got a fair few in the stash to choose from too Regards Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, fatfingers said: Aye up Stix. It's a HUGE yes from me. Pz III is my all time favourite as it looks like a 'proper' tank. Got a fair few in the stash to choose from too Regards Steve Hi Steve. Great stuff! Glad to have you taking part. I will add you to the list. We're now 1/5 of the way there! Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, PlaStix said: Hi SleeperService and thank you for signing up - great to have you taking part. I'm a bit on the fence at the moment with regards the FlakPanzer III. Don't get me wrong, it looks like a great vehicle but 'the internet' seems a bit divided as to whether it was actually built. As I mentioned above, I am certainly no expert on Pz.IIIs but, if we stick within the spirit of the usual Britmodeller STGB guidelines, anything that can't be proved to have been built isn’t usually included. I'm happy to be swayed either way. I shall dig out the appropriate reference stuff and post it for your perusal. It isn't where I thought it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 If I recall correctly, the hole for the turret in a Pz III hull was not large enough in diameter to house an AA-gun turret, like in a Wirbelwind. But I may recall incorrectly . V-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German Armour Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Maybe I can join. Plenty of time to find a kit. 😁 Edited January 5, 2019 by Panther II 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, vppelt68 said: If I recall correctly, the hole for the turret in a Pz III hull was not large enough in diameter to house an AA-gun turret, like in a Wirbelwind. But I may recall incorrectly . V-P Hi V-P. Hope you are well. Are you interested in taking part in this STGB? Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Panther II said: Maybe I can join. Plenty of time to find a kit. 😁 Hi Panther II. I have added you to the list. Hopefully you will be able to find a suitable kit. Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, PlaStix said: Hi V-P. Hope you are well. Are you interested in taking part in this STGB? Kind regards, Stix Stix, thanks for asking, I'm feeling fine 👍. I am, if and only if I manage to drag myself off those B-17:s and first finish a Pz IV too - oh woe is me! V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREG DESTEC Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Hi Stix, Sign me up please, Cheers Greg 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, vppelt68 said: Stix, thanks for asking, I'm feeling fine 👍. I am, if and only if I manage to drag myself off those B-17:s and first finish a Pz IV too - oh woe is me! V-P Hi V-P. I have added you to the list and I will make sure I keep chasing you up about the B-17s and a Pz.IV! You have probably got more than a year before this GB will start so hopefully you'll get them all finished! 13 minutes ago, GREG DESTEC said: Hi Stix, Sign me up please, Cheers Greg 👍 Hi Greg. Great to have you along! I have added you to the list. We are now almost a quarter of the way there already! Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, PlaStix said: Hi V-P. I have added you to the list... Kind regards, Stix Haha, I knew you would! Thanks, V-P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoot Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I’m in, I’ve got several panzer/StuG iii kits in the stash to have a bash at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 7 hours ago, bigfoot said: I’m in, I’ve got several panzer/StuG iii kits in the stash to have a bash at. Hi bigfoot. Great to have you along for the GB! Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 4:31 PM, vppelt68 said: If I recall correctly, the hole for the turret in a Pz III hull was not large enough in diameter to house an AA-gun turret, like in a Wirbelwind. But I may recall incorrectly . V-P As built you are quite correct. However the Befehlspanzer Ausf J had a Panzer IV turret fully rotating with a 5cm L/60 gun. It could be adapted as the design was originally very over specified. There is documentary evidence that some FlakPanzer III were built and issued to Stug units which is what they were built for. I'll keep a watch on developments regardless but I will probably go for something else by the time this happens. I'm fickle like that, or just can't make my mind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftScience Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Short barrelled panzer IIIs and Stug Ausf B.s are some of the coolest looking armor ever. Put me down as definitely interested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 8 hours ago, SoftScience said: Short barrelled panzer IIIs and Stug Ausf B.s are some of the coolest looking armor ever. Put me down as definitely interested. Hi SoftScience. Totally agree! Great to have you on board! Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Ah, go on No idea what I'd build, but yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Robert Stuart said: Ah, go on No idea what I'd build, but yes Hi Robert and great to have you along! I have added you to the list above. Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 @Yetifan has signed up via the AFV Discussion thread! We are almost half way! Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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