Navy Bird Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 First photos of the prototype Sikorsky-Boeing Defiant helicopter (apologies if this is a duplicate): Article: https://www.defensenews.com/land/2018/12/26/heres-the-first-look-at-the-sikorsky-boeing-defiant-helicopter/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ebb-12-27&utm_term=Editorial - Early Bird Brief Cheers, Bill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Now that is just fugly! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britman Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Interesting how the helicopter is still evolving. Not one for the navy I guess unless it stays up top. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 hours ago, mhaselden said: Now that is just fugly! Tis a bit odd looking...maybe like its namesake? Not fugly, just odd. 2 hours ago, Britman said: Interesting how the helicopter is still evolving. Not one for the navy I guess unless it stays up top. This one is for the US Army Future Vertical Lift program. Its competitor is the Bell Valor, which is a derivative of the Osprey tilt-rotor technology. It has already flown; the Defiant is behind schedule. Cheers, Bill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 By the time they have hung tanks and gunpods off it, it will be fugly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredag Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) Did they drop 3 boxes of different parts and put them together wrong? 2 rotors, one pusher prop...should this really be called the Up,Up and Away? Edited December 29, 2018 by Fredag 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) Normally i say that if you shake a tamiya box with a tad of paint and glue in it you get a perfectly fine result to display on your shelf.. But i really don't know what they where trying to shake at Sikorsky-Boeing...🤔but its fugly... If i where a pilot i would certainly do not tell my friends what i am flying if i flew this.... Edited December 29, 2018 by janneman36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredag Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Strangely, both these contenders closely resemble designs from the late '40's-50's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11bravo Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Ugly.... Are either one of these things able to fit in a C-17 without major disassembly? The Sikorsky version looks to be too tall and unless the Bell version allows the wing to rotate fore and aft like the MV-22, you'd have to take the entire wing assembly off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 @11bravo The Bell V-280 Valor has one major difference from the V-22 Osprey tilt rotor, as the engines and nacelles remain in place while the prop/rotors and drive shafts tilt. A driveshaft runs through the straight wing, allowing both prop/rotors to be driven by a single engine in the event of engine loss. Cheers, Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairystick Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 What to say about that "aircraft"...? It actually makes the F-35 look good. Also, it seems like a young child came up with the concept - "Dad, I want a helicopter, with wings, and nuclear subs are cool so I want the back of a boomer on it too! Oh, and make it look like a tadpole". Hopefully there will be a hangar fire forthcoming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwenS Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 An AH-56 Cheyenne on steroids. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Call me a cynic but I think Bell are trying to squeeze a civilian Osprey derivative through on Military funding whereas Sikorsky Boeing are still trying to use Cheyenne R & D to save money. Nothing wrong with either of those ideas if the client is happy to pay of course. Duncan B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwenS Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Second thoughts - just a bloated AH-56. Thinking Elvis here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dot Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 and named after another failure too Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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