TheBaron Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Have you been biting the ends of those pencils? You have, haven't you? You'll ruin your teeth and have nothing to gnash when listening to the news.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Detailing began below And above The weapons rack mounting points were added, both sides The FLIR unit takes up the forward positions on the starb'd fuselage, I cannot tell yet whether the weapons rack can be fitted/would be fitted if the FLIR is in place, does anyone know if weapons would be loaded assymetrically with the FLIR onboard? When I build the defensive measure suite would FLIR be aboard too? I do not want any passing nauticals having a free laff at the Merlin after all, it is already at a Italeri disadvantage I may have mentioned hating Win 10 Would you mind if I go away now and curse again its execrable file handling methods I have lost around thirty build pictures from yesterday "We are not amused" 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Have you been biting the ends of those pencils? You have, haven't you? You'll ruin your teeth and have nothing to gnash when listening to the news.... I refer m'lud to the photographs entered in evidence The plaintiff avers that from all the visible evidence here shown no teeth have been harmed during any artworks on display Fnarr fnarr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 There's a strange aerodynamic shape hanging under the tail fold joint Hmm Ponder time refreshes... Wonder how the hell.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 8 hours ago, perdu said: And above Sticking a toilet roll core in a hole counts as detailing these days? c'mon Bill, your standards are dropping! Next you'll be building an italeri out of the box and trying to convince us it's fine! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Busted... 😠 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 10 hours ago, perdu said: Belts and other inconvenient visible bits for example That's what I like to see, a nice bit of Billification going on in the innards. Looking good Bill. More please now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphin38 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) A few pictures of the FLIR fit on a Merlin HM2 and a picture of ZH841 which has the FLIR fitted on the Stbd side and a weapon Pylon on the Port side, notice that the FLIR fit for the HM1 in my previous post and the HM2 in this post is different. IMGP6569 by Phillip Wilmshurst, on Flickr IMGP6566 by Phillip Wilmshurst, on Flickr _IMG8420_1 by Phillip Wilmshurst, on Flickr Hope they help you answer some of your questions. Edited February 25, 2019 by dolphin38 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 The Merlin may have been fighting you Bill but she is looking really good now. I suspect you have a winner on your hands here. The Supportive Triumph Driver 👽 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 Aw Martian, too kind sir Philip lovely pictures and good info, weapons pylon port side it is then thank you I really need to know what the rear face of the defensive suite looks like to button that up now Do we think it might be mirror image except for the round doodah at the front corner of the flare racking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphin38 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I don't think it is a mirror image, the bracket in the red area doesnt seem to appear in the blue are so i'm not convinced there is a flare pack on the aft section but I could be wrong, unfortunately I couldn't take pictures of the aft area of the DAS because of the way the aircraft were parked. 1 by Phillip Wilmshurst, on Flickr 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 I dont think you are wrong there Dolphin, I think the basic top brackets are the same with just the front having the different box for the flares or chaff units I'm going to go with that anyway If THEY dont like it, so shoot me Cheers b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds. Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 My Lord, I thought Hendie's Wessex had lots of knobbly sticky out bits but this Merlin is giving it a run for it's money and you, poor Bill have it all to do in a smaller scale. I have booked the Hubble for a week to give you a fighting chance. Great work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Thanks for that, going to be useful for the finer details I have begun making the 'cast-metal alike' side frames out of .125" wide Evergreen U section It is not easy to photograph so I havent yet but the basic idea seems viable There will be further reports from the front Back And sides later looks a viable method of depicting cast metal framework, you'll see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Blimey, either the handling of the Merlin’s active sonar is amazingly good or they are getting cocky through not using it much - a blade aerial that close to a Seaking’s sonar well would have been kocked off by a swinging sonar body in about 2 minutes! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just remember Crisp, you taught them how to strive for perfection back in the d... You know Can we consult on the gubbins next the sonar well bit, the hole with a device hanging out of it Is it some kind of SACRU or an unspecified 'other' kind of thing? I see short cables but nothing like the rats nest of wires under Wessex or Seaking There's more to it isnt there... I see a winch/hoist thingy as a possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Content withdrawn - I will NOT be threatened by a moderator, simply because I queried the actions of another... Edited June 27, 2020 by andyf117 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Blimey, either the handling of the Merlin’s active sonar is amazingly good or they are getting cocky through not using it much - a blade aerial that close to a Seaking’s sonar well would have been kocked off by a swinging sonar body in about 2 minutes! Nah, in all the years it's been in service I don't ever recall an incident when the body hit the lower antenna. We did have a time many moons ago when the body was suspected of hitting the H-beam heavy lift frame - it was mounted in such a way as to come a bit too close to the ADS funnel. After a days flying the lads found some interesting scuff marks on the body and a few dings around the H-beam that all kinda matched each other!! Edit: just thinking about any incidents and I have a vague memory of the cable been wrapped round the u/c leg but that could just have been a training scenario... Jeff Edited February 26, 2019 by pinky coffeeboat Slow to respond memory 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, perdu said: Just remember Crisp, you taught them how to strive for perfection back in the d... You know Can we consult on the gubbins next the sonar well bit, the hole with a device hanging out of it Is it some kind of SACRU or an unspecified 'other' kind of thing? I see short cables but nothing like the rats nest of wires under Wessex or Seaking There's more to it isnt there... I see a winch/hoist thingy as a possibility The gubbins next to the ADS funnel is the decklock - a hydraulically operated claw that is shot down to engage with the grid on the flight deck. It's not always fitted but is pretty much standard fit for the (slowly going out of use) flights. Just catching up after a weekend away, so I'll do my best to answer any Q that have been asked. Oh, and I'm on a phone and it's even more awkward!! Jeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Thanks Jeff Answers bring new questions There's an odd gubbins in the kit that has a flattish box with two oddball arms sticking out that is in unexplained in the destructions Might that be it? Better get back on the big screen later for some serious forensics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 From memory of building the kit years ago (I think it must have been 2004ish if not earlier) that bit is indeed meant to represent the decklock. It has a couple of positions - stowed as it would be in that photo above and lowered ready to engage. When stowed it pivots forwards with the beak pointing to the front. It's actually frustrating because I don't have my computer with me that has dozens, hundreds, thousands of pictures of the aircraft from every conceivable angle. The funny thing is, I was always under the impression that taking pictures of the sticky out bits and "how things are done" if you get my drift were not permitted - top secret and all that. But I did snap a "few" close ups of those bits, purely for modelling purposes and being for modelling purposes were taken from good positions showing angles, shapes, attachment points and even colours!!! I'm away this week but home again at the weekend. I'll see if what I dig out will still be relevant to your stage of progress. Jeff 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 That is a huge help, thanks Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 hours ago, andyf117 said: Can't help with the thing hanging out of the hole... ....but have now located a rear view of the DAS units: (Click pic for hi-res version) Hey look, just the configuration I had decided on for the model FLIR on the st'bd station and weapons carrier on the port, 'zactly right So the rear panel on the flare/chaffifiser has rectangular stiffeners and the front has that bent up tinware item with brackets for the chaff packages gggggrrrrreat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 21/02/2019 at 20:29, pinky coffeeboat said: One thing that annoys me is photos captioned as an RAF Merlin when its marked very clearly Royal Navy!!! But then every military aircraft belongs to the RAF..... You pre-suppose the ability of most journalists to read! Martian 👽 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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