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Chaotic Mike

The first HK Lancaster WIP?

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I plan to do the same to mine. Such obvious errors shouldn’t be made these days, especially on such an expensive model.

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I agree entirely, it isnt cheap yet there are so many things that are wrong that one has to put right . . . . . 

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14 hours ago, Mancunian airman said:

I agree entirely, it isnt cheap yet there are so many things that are wrong that one has to put right . . . . . 

There are so many issues and so many inaccuracies, the cockpit particularly,  that I'm seriously thinking about cutting my losses and selling it for £150.00. Then I can start saving for the Wingnut Wings one. 

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Sad to hear that Peter.

 

Will all the extras you purchased for it (at some expense) be useable on the WNW version when you get it?

 

I'm waiting for the WNW version and have sold some other stuff in the meantime in order to justify its eventual purchase,

but I am tempted by yours ..........

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I didn't find the cockpit tweaks that I made to be too painful.  However, it probably isn't entirely accurate, either.  But it does look a lot more busy.

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A little gentle surgery gave these holes...

 

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The thing you can see at the front of the wedge shaped recess is the pipe linking the engine block to the radiator.  It definitely looks better with these voids cut out (even though one of them is shortly to be covered up by a fairing).

 

The engine nestling in its nacelle.  The jury is out as to whether I'll cover this one up entirely, or leave some panels off.  If I do have one or two engines on display, I think there is an ugly amount of piping and wiring I'll need to supply.  I bet there should be more gubbins on the firewall, too.

 

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Speaking of plastic surgery, this was tedious.  Particularly by the time I'd done 4 nacelle's worth!

 

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It looks good in situ, though.  I have ordered up some Eduard photo etch to dress up the landing gear a bit, in particular lining the undercarriage doors should make a significant difference to how they look (replacing featureless surfaces with some nice panel and rivet detail).  They also have pieces that enhance the girders I spent all that time cutting out.  Pictures after I receive photo etch, and install it.  I'll say now that I rarely get on well with PE, but hopefully these will be installable with minimal fuss.

 

Laters...

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Seems odd that they would shorten up on detail on such a substantial kit as this. Nice job opening them up!

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Hello again, time for this week's catchup.  I don't usually get on with photo-etch, but this time it seems to be working for me.  It might be because I'm using a high quality CA glue.  Who knows?  Anyway, three four pics to show a week's progress!

 

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And that's that!  I'll need to put a little more black onto things (which seems to be an occupational hazard with a wartime night bomber!) but I reckon its going in the right direction...

 

Mike

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Brilliant workmanship, but  bridge too far for me. 

I sold my untouched HK kit....

I wish the new owner all the best. 

I'll continue to follow, wondering how so much skill is displayed. It makes my efforts look sad...

 

Have you got to do all that work on all the nacelles? 

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Is @Mancunian airman the inheritor of your kit?  Well, whoever gets it, good luck!

It isn't particularly skill (although I am now fairly experienced, being in my mid 50s), with a big kit like this, for me it is more about perseverance: the large scale means that there is more to worry about but equally, the pieces tend to be bigger, which helps with my eyesight!  It also helps if you like the subject matter.  I made a Kitty Hawk Bronco last year but it really didn't do it for me.  No idea why, it's a perfectly good kit (decals are dodgy, mind!) but I just didn't like the result when I'd finished.  The Lanc I will let a large number of inaccuracies go by simply because I like Lancasters!  It will certainly have 'presence' by the time it's done.

 

Regarding all that PE: it only applies to the inner nacelles (i.e. those with landing gear).  As I have a supply of engine panels building up, and I just invested in a riveting tool to deal with the 'extra' dinghy location HKM saw fit to supply, I might try riveting up the interior of the panels just to see how it goes. 

 

Anyway, as they said 100 years ago, I imagine it will all be over by Christmas!

 

Mike

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Warning to future builders. The tolerances on the undercarriage are really tight, to the extent that paint makes things jam.

 

When I do the second nacelle, I will probably build the undercarriage into its seats before enclosing the bay with the 2 halves. This isn't clearly the order recommended in the instructions but installing the undercarriage after the sides were together was really difficult.

If I hadn't cut outside the voids on the wing rib I don't think I could have got the undercarriage legs in there. 

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In the immediate future, I predict a *lot* of removal of ejector pin marks... 

 

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These are not in easy locations for removal. But on the positive side, they *are* easily seen... 😞

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Oui! Well, put some relaxing music on, sit in your favorite chair with your favorite sanding utensil and have at it!

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The first (smaller) bay took over an hour. I'm waiting, agog with anticipation, for the Ultimate Primer to set, to see how much damage I have done... 

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Not too shabby! As with many things, waiting for a grime wash. 

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The engine nacelles are ferociously tight. Much fettling is prophesied. 

Got some custom masks today to do R5868 as she is in the RAFM. Hooray! 

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I'd say they did a good job, as did you getting the mold release marks out. Nice.

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Top tip... Don't bother cutting out the furthest forward nacelle voids. They are hidden by a shroud.

Bugrit, more minutes of my life I won't be seeing again... 

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Hey Mike

You are still cracking on with this and all the good for you.

 

I purchased the Lancaster from Peter.

When I start mine, probably in the New year, I will have had the benefit of a number of builds so I already have a list of alterations that I will do.

I have already built a number of pieces as support equipment as I intend to display this beast at home in a prominent position.

 

I cant believe its coming up a year since you started this . . . .

 

 

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I went to see Just Jane at East Kirby yesterday. I'll post some close up photos later. Being able to stand close and look at the engines was fascinating: the radiator blocks were obviously new and aluminium, just as on my car. The weld lines on the exhausts are also very obvious, it seems that there is a divider inside each fishtail. 

 

Good luck both of you, I'll watch with admiration. 

 

Peter

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On 25/09/2019 at 22:03, Chaotic Mike said:

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The thing you can see at the front of the wedge shaped recess is the pipe linking the engine block to the radiator.  It definitely looks better with these voids cut out (even though one of them is shortly to be covered up by a fairing).

 

The engine nestling in its nacelle.  The jury is out as to whether I'll cover this one up entirely, or leave some panels off.  If I do have one or two engines on display, I think there is an ugly amount of piping and wiring I'll need to supply.  I bet there should be more gubbins on the firewall, too.

 

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This is a photo of Just Jane's Starboard outer engine. 

 

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A lot of plumbing! Note that the exhaust ejectors are alternately angled and there is an internal splitter, with a corresponding weld on the outside.

I have no idea what the silver pipes under the exhaust stubs are for. 

The radiator matrix in black, the body silver. 

The rod hanging down from the ends of the cross shaft are the radiator flap adjustment actuators. 

 

Hope this helps...

 

 

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59 minutes ago, 224 Peter said:

Note that the exhaust ejectors are alternately angled

Note that the exhaust ejectors are a hodge podge of at least 3 different designs randomly fitted to the engine. Servicable stubs fitted for ground running engines, wartime fitment would have been stubs of the same pattern.

1 hour ago, 224 Peter said:

I have no idea what the silver pipes under the exhaust stubs are for. 

One set of HT leads for the outboard sparkplugs (there's another set on the inside of the V) The Magneto for this bank is immediately aft of the flexible armoured cable running aft from the protective pipe.

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