Homebee Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Hasegawa's F-111 1/72nd kits will be reissued soon under Hobby2000 label - ref. 72038 - G.D. F-111F Aardvark Operation Desert Storm - Limited Edition http://ksmodel.pl/sklep/szczegoly/hobby-2000-72038-f-111f-operation-desert-storm-limited-edition-1-72-22636/ - ref. 72044 - G.D. F-111D/F Aardvark - Limited Edition http://ksmodel.pl/sklep/szczegoly/hobby-2000-72044-f-111d-f-aardvark-limited-edition-1-72-22637/ V.P. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultures1 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Homebee said: Hasegawa's F-111 1/72nd kits will be reissued soon under Hobby2000 label OK, now that is VERY interesting. Happy days 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain goat Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Homebee said: Hasegawa's F-111 1/72nd kits will be reissued soon under Hobby2000 label - ref. 72038 - G.D. F-111F Aardvark Operation Desert Storm - Limited Edition http://ksmodel.pl/sklep/szczegoly/hobby-2000-72038-f-111f-operation-desert-storm-limited-edition-1-72-22636/ - ref. 72044 - G.D. F-111D/F Aardvark - Limited Edition http://ksmodel.pl/sklep/szczegoly/hobby-2000-72044-f-111d-f-aardvark-limited-edition-1-72-22637/ V.P. Happy camper I am! Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) More - ref. 72038 - G.D. F-111F Aardvark Operation Desert Storm - Limited Edition https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/H2K72038 http://ksmodel.pl/sklep/szczegoly/hobby-2000-72038-f-111f-operation-desert-storm-limited-edition-1-72-22636/ - ref. 72044 - G.D. F-111D/F Aardvark - Limited Edition https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/H2K72044 http://ksmodel.pl/sklep/szczegoly/hobby-2000-72044-f-111d-f-aardvark-limited-edition-1-72-22637/ V.P. Edited April 8, 2021 by Homebee 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieGolf2009 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Homebee said: More - ref. 72038 - G.D. F-111F Aardvark Operation Desert Storm - Limited Edition https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/H2K72038 http://ksmodel.pl/sklep/szczegoly/hobby-2000-72038-f-111f-operation-desert-storm-limited-edition-1-72-22636/ - ref. 72044 - G.D. F-111D/F Aardvark - Limited Edition https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/H2K72044 http://ksmodel.pl/sklep/szczegoly/hobby-2000-72044-f-111d-f-aardvark-limited-edition-1-72-22637/ V.P. Great news! Let's just hope they also reissue the Alpha, Echo, Foxtrot Bravo, and especially the most of the time forgotten Delta. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 A 48th TFW 111-F. Just what I've been after! Edit: Ooops. Just accidentally fell into my basket at Hannants. Happy days! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavingav1 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 You have to wonder why hasegawa don't have kits like the F-111, skyraider and the Beaufighter(before the airfix was released) on a more widespread release, they have already tooled them, probably broke even on the toolings with some profit and modellers have been screaming out for re-issues for years, hard to believe that re-issues would not have been profitable when hasegawa have some 40-50 year old kits on permanent release like the 72nd sea harrier and uh-1d , puzzles the mind . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I was really looking forward to the release of this kit, but then I saw the price. At over forty quid, sadly it’s not for me. Oh well. It was nice to dream....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, lasermonkey said: I was really looking forward to the release of this kit, but then I saw the price. At over forty quid, sadly it’s not for me. Oh well. It was nice to dream....... Yes they are not cheap but the Hasegawa boxings are £50 and at least with the Hobby 2000 boxings you get decent quality decals and masks. I would just like to buy the decals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Tbolt said: Yes they are not cheap but the Hasegawa boxings are £50 and at least with the Hobby 2000 boxings you get decent quality decals and masks. I would just like to buy the decals! Have to agree. I've never been a fan of Hasegawa decals, so I would have bought an aftermarket set for £8 to £10? Then the canopy mask: £4-5? Add that to the Hannants 10% pre order discount, and the Hobby 2000 re-box doesn't seem that bad. Admittedly, I could get the Hobby Boss 1/48 kit for that money, but they don't do an F model (no big deal) and 48th TFW decals in 1/48 scale appear to be hen's teeth now. Next dilemma. Do I now want the Academy F-15E D-Day livery kit to sit next to the 111F? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I already have some 48th FW decals and my experience of Cartograf has been less than happy. I don’t trust vinyl masks either, so the extra cost is wasted on me. If it had been a similar price to the F-4C/D I’d have been all over it (I bought three of those and paid around £25 each) but £40 is way too much IMO. I’ll be leaving the one-eleven on the shelves, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, lasermonkey said: I already have some 48th FW decals and my experience of Cartograf has been less than happy. I don’t trust vinyl masks either, so the extra cost is wasted on me. If it had been a similar price to the F-4C/D I’d have been all over it (I bought three of those and paid around £25 each) but £40 is way too much IMO. I’ll be leaving the one-eleven on the shelves, I don't disagree. It's still not cheap. I've only grabbed one because the last one I built was when the kit first came out. Gawd knows how long ago that was now but I seem to remember feeling youthful at the time. It's the first Hasegawa plastic I've bought in a long, long time as I usually have an allergic reaction to their prices. I only made an exception here because it's an F-111F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 The first F-111s came out in the early 1990s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 This is very good news. Been after a Lakenheath F for ages, and haveing cartograph decals is a nice bonus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, Jabba said: The first F-111s came out in the early 1990s. Thanks! I was in my early 20s then. Hence the reason I felt a lot younger than I do now. I spent a lot of time by the fence at Lakenheath in the late 80s and early 90s, and as soon as the Hasegawa kit came out, I bagged it. Still remember that. Seem to recall I got it from Hannants shop in Lowestoft and also buying the Fujimi F-4J as I spent a lot of time at Wattisham too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I know price is a personal thing, but £38 for a 1/72 Hasegawa F-111 does not sound like an outrageour price to me. It is afterall a large and complicated kit, with a lot of parts. Judging from the price of their current kits, if Airfix did a new one it would easily be in the £35-38 bracket anyway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 54 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: I know price is a personal thing, but £38 for a 1/72 Hasegawa F-111 does not sound like an outrageour price to me. It is afterall a large and complicated kit, with a lot of parts. Judging from the price of their current kits, if Airfix did a new one it would easily be in the £35-38 bracket anyway. Also if Hasegawa tooled a new one your probably looking at £70. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Giorgio N said: I know price is a personal thing, but £38 for a 1/72 Hasegawa F-111 does not sound like an outrageour price to me. It is afterall a large and complicated kit, with a lot of parts. Judging from the price of their current kits, if Airfix did a new one it would easily be in the £35-38 bracket anyway. I think it would be more in line with their Buccaneer, which is around the £30 mark, personally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, lasermonkey said: I think it would be more in line with their Buccaneer, which is around the £30 mark, personally. I have both Buccaneers and F-111s in 1/72 and the 111 is larger by a good margin, I doubt that Airfix would make it into a Series 6 kit like the Buccaneer (if they will ever do a new tool of this aircraft). For comparison. when Airfix did their old F-111 it was as a Series 4 kit, both the original NA.39 and the later S.2 kits were both in a Series 3 box. It was only when Hornby reissued the Buccaneer with a few additional parts that it started being sold as a Series 4 kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 56 minutes ago, Beermonster1958 said: £35-£38 may be about right for a (hypothetical)new Airfix kit. However, the subject of this discussion is not a new kit. It is a 25 year old (admittedly very nice) kit. I just do not think addition if a new decal sheet and, vinyl masks (which I would bin anyway) justify the high cost. That's a purely personal view of course. Others may agree or disagree as they think fit. Tbolt's comment about the hypothetical £70 price tag for a brand new Hasegawa kit is valid. I wouldn't pay that!, but then, neither would I pay £35 - £38 for a (hypothetical) new Airfix kit of this subject. Not a complaint, just financial reality. The reissued Heinkel and , F-4 at about £24 are more to my wallet's liking!!😉😂 John. Unfortunately the age of the tooling seems to have little to do with it, just look at price of other 90's Hasegawa re-boxings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I don't understand the logic, often used by modellers, that older kits should cost less than the newer ones, afterall the production and distribution costs of a kit coming from an old tool are not different than the ones required for a kit coming from a new tool. The only difference is that the first x thousand kits will not generate profit for the manufacturer as they will cover the tool production costs (roughly speaking). All the following will generate the profit the company need to survive and make the owners happy. I can't see why a company should forfeit their profit only because the moulds used to make a kit are 20 year old. What matters is that the product is placed at a price that makes it competitive with similar products of similar quality, if this does not happen then the product will likely do poorly. When it comes to this particular kit, it is still the best 1/72 F-111 on the market by a wide margin, even with its few drawbacks (like the simplified cockpit) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: I don't understand the logic, often used by modellers, that older kits should cost less than the newer ones, afterall the production and distribution costs of a kit coming from an old tool are not different than the ones required for a kit coming from a new tool. The only difference is that the first x thousand kits will not generate profit for the manufacturer as they will cover the tool production costs (roughly speaking). All the following will generate the profit the company need to survive and make the owners happy. I can't see why a company should forfeit their profit only because the moulds used to make a kit are 20 year old. What matters is that the product is placed at a price that makes it competitive with similar products of similar quality, if this does not happen then the product will likely do poorly. When it comes to this particular kit, it is still the best 1/72 F-111 on the market by a wide margin, even with its few drawbacks (like the simplified cockpit) I guess that depends on the age. I don't know if Hasegawa are still selling it but their old 1/72nd F-14A was being sold along side their newer one and there was a big price difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 3/28/2021 at 1:03 PM, gavingav said: You have to wonder why hasegawa don't have kits like the F-111, skyraider and the Beaufighter(before the airfix was released) on a more widespread release Since Hasegawa are almost entirely focused on the Japanese market, they must feel that these won't sell well in Japan. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAT69 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hook said: Since Hasegawa are almost entirely focused on the Japanese market, they must feel that these won't sell well in Japan. You may be right, but I would think their US market would be huge. Does it not make sense to cater to each of two large business markets? I'm no business major and am open to education about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, SAT69 said: You may be right, but I would think their US market would be huge. It is not. As is the European market, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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