AlexO Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) Hi everyone! Could you help me with plans of any of six Devonshire-class cruisers built in 1903-1905 (HMS Argyll, HMS Hampshire, HMS Devonshire, HMS Roxburgh, HMS Carnarvon, HMS Antrim)? I found lots of photos of their sides, but no plans of upper deck, bridges and so on. As far as I know, there is a model of HMS Argyll in Glasgow Transport Museum, very detailed, but I found only one picture of it. Also, I'm very interested in dazzle-camouflage schemes for Carnarvon, Roxburgh or Devonshire (there are only one side photos without color description). Edited December 14, 2018 by AlexO typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWFK10 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 If you can get hold of a copy of this book, it includes an elevation and plan view of HMS Antrim as built. Not huge, the drawings take up half a page in total, but hopefully in a large enough scale to be some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexO Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 There will almost certainly be design plans at the National Maritime Museum. https://www.rmg.co.uk/shop/ship-plan-prints-scanning Brace yourself though- you'll be looking at a couple of hundred quid to get them to scan a set of plans... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexO Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Killingholme said: There will almost certainly be design plans at the National Maritime Museum. https://www.rmg.co.uk/shop/ship-plan-prints-scanning Brace yourself though- you'll be looking at a couple of hundred quid to get them to scan a set of plans... Thank you, indeed, they do, and I have these scans now: inboard profile, upper deck and bridges, boat deck plans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Realize this is an extreme long-shot (not least since the OP hasn't been on the site since March 2019) but any ship modelling experts out there in Britmodeller-land have suggestions for how I might make a model of HMS Argyll? A relative was serving aboard her when she ran aground in 1915 and I'd like to depict the ship as she looked....just prior to being wrecked, of course. My Google-fu suggests there isn't a decent model of the Devonshire Class cruisers (I did find a 1/1350th scale waterline representation but it looks basic in the extreme). Scratchbuilding something as big as a cruiser is probably beyond my capabilities so if there isn't a kit out there that can reasonably be converted, I may have to admit defeat. Any (printable and non-mocking) thoughts/ideas would be very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Can't help re modelling aspects, I'm afraid, but a nice large photo of Argyll appears on p.287 of the book mentioned by @AWFK10. Clear and close-up but because it's from the starboard quarter maybe not so terribly useful for modelling details. Undated but Friedman surmises that it is was not long before her loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWFK10 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Others may well know more but the closest thing available to a Devonshire Class cruiser looks to be the Combrig 1/350 or 1/700 resin kits of their Monmouth Class predecessors which were 15 feet shorter and had 30" less beam. They also had three funnels rather than four and (excluding casemate-mounted guns) 2 x twin 6" turrets as opposed to the Devonshires' 4 x single 7.5", so although the two designs were fundamentally similar they were quite different in appearance. I think the only option would be scratchbuilding, if possible sourcing items like ship's boats from a kit. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of one that would provide those turrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexO Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) You might know, but just in case - you can find a very big and highly detailed model of HMS Argyll in Glasgow Museum of Transport https://www.wikiwand.com/en/HMS_Argyll_(1904) Although my interest is HMS Antrim, it was very useful for me. I haven’t heard about any Kit for Devonshire class, except the Combrigs for Monmouth, mentioned above. A bit later after this topic was started, I was communicating with Glasgow Museum curators and got the detailed pictures of the model, but I cannot share them unfortunately, just as the scans from RMG. But I think they could be retrieved by anyone interested enough. So scratchbuilding is an option. @mhaselden Good luck with your HMS Argyll! 😉 Edited May 31, 2021 by AlexO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Gents, Many thanks for all the ideas. Sorry it's taken me so long to respond. The Combrig model looks pretty interesting. I suspect I'd have to buy 2 of them and somehow combine them to get the extra length....and that starts to get spendy if I try to hunt out the 1/350th scale versions (although that's the more interesting scale to me. Then again, at the rate I build models, it may take me years to get this project off the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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