Hewy Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Blimey it'll be ready for paint tomorrow, I like your zimmerit, will you be leaving the armour rails exposed or are you hanging the odd bit? Smashing job up to yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 Cheers Hewy. At the moment I am thinking that leaving the odd skirt off will be the best route to take. I am however also considering building a few track links to hang here and there and I will have to make a couple of weld seams to disguise a niggle here and there. The above will however only start to be done in the morning. Regards: Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badder Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Shaun, It's looking good...... and hints of maybe ending up dirty. Dirty. Dirty. Very, VERY dirty. Dirty! DIRTY! Or am I being a shade optimistic? Rearguards, Badder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 I think that I am indeed going to give it the went through a ditch of( insert everyday soldiers slang here). Well that is the idea anyway. Regards: Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 That really is coming together beautifully and I too am impressed by your field applied Zimmerit! Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Thank you Stix. I have done the whole black priming thing today and also did the tires on the Tiger so by tomorrow the real build should be starting. Regards: Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I also like the zimmerit you've done. It seems to have been well applied to Panthers and King Tigers but not so well on Panzer IVs. As the turret armour caused every German AFV to be reported as a Tiger your diorama idea is a very good one. About the Aust G you mentioned. The steel return rollers appeared in October 1943 so an Ausf H could have either fitted. The cast idler appeared at about the same time. So 888 units give or take had the steel wheels the rest rubber. BTW schutzern was certainly a system of two parts. The hull fittings were relatively weak for the abuse they'd encounter so took more damage. The turret fixings were stronger and it was better protected. As a result the turret armour was usually in pretty good shape. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 11 hours ago, SleeperService said: I also like the zimmerit you've done. It seems to have been well applied to Panthers and King Tigers but not so well on Panzer IVs. As the turret armour caused every German AFV to be reported as a Tiger your diorama idea is a very good one. About the Aust G you mentioned. The steel return rollers appeared in October 1943 so an Ausf H could have either fitted. The cast idler appeared at about the same time. So 888 units give or take had the steel wheels the rest rubber. BTW schutzern was certainly a system of two parts. The hull fittings were relatively weak for the abuse they'd encounter so took more damage. The turret fixings were stronger and it was better protected. As a result the turret armour was usually in pretty good shape. Thanks for the comments and also the adcice. I had a very faint idea that the hull schurzen would have taken a lot of punishement at the moment I am busy doing the triangular retaining "teeth" I have cut them in such a way that most of them is of different sizes as I would like to make them seem as having been repaired at some stage or the other in a field workshop you know kinda welded in place by a tired tech. I am hoping that this will work because to be frank my weathering skills suck. Regards: Shaun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 O. K so al of the hangar brackets is in place I am now wrestling through scratchbuilding a couple of tracks as additional stowage/improvised armor. Now I know that you guys are going to ask why I would want to scratch tracks if I could just buy some. The short answer is that I want to see if I can because I am busy scratch building a samovente so would like to do it without buying anything as it would then not be scratch built in my little book. Ja I know. But I am funny in that way. Hoping to give some more pics as soon as I have at least 6 tracks done. Regards: Shaun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 O. K so I have been pondering on this mulling and going back and forth for the last two days. As I am busy building individual tracks for the "add on armor" having rubber band tracks will not work out for the model that I want to depict. That having been said I will now have to go silent untill past christmas because:Yes you guessed it I am about to start cutting the 720 pieces of microscopically small plastic parts to build individual track links for both the model and the add on armor wish me luck and see you in the new year. Regards: Shaun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badder Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 9:58 PM, the South African said: O. K so al of the hangar brackets is in place I am now wrestling through scratchbuilding a couple of tracks as additional stowage/improvised armor. Now I know that you guys are going to ask why I would want to scratch tracks if I could just buy some. The short answer is that I want to see if I can because I am busy scratch building a samovente so would like to do it without buying anything as it would then not be scratch built in my little book. Ja I know. But I am funny in that way. Hoping to give some more pics as soon as I have at least 6 tracks done. Regards: Shaun How weird is this???? Earlier today I actually wondered if it was possible to scratch-build winter tracks for my Nashorn. And I decided of course it's possible, but only by a complete nut-job!😁 I simply don't have the tools, or the patience, to make even one link, let alone 160+ So, I take my hat off to you Shaun, and wish you every success. And no, you're not a nut-job really. Rearguards, Badder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahavelona Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 18/12/2018 at 21:22, the South African said: So with the planned layout containing a tiger I got to thinking that I would have to seriously ramp up the panzer iv as to not be overshadowed by the rather impressive bulk of it's co habitant. I applied the zimmermit coating in a way that I am hoping will convey that it was applied haphazardly by someone not particularly in the mood to do so and also that half of it has fallen off. The schurzen mounts is still a work in progress taking a bit of fore thought as to not interfere with the painting. As always all comments and critique is valued. Regards: Shaun. I hugely admire your bravely and commitment to scratching track links. You are a modeller after all - after a certain amount of aftermarket had been bought you can begin to feel more like a model shopper! I would like to make some comment on the zimmerit. I might be wrong, and I can't remember which book I've read this in, but I've read that the zimmerit was actually a very durable material owing to its hardness. Large missing areas across the tank would be unlikely to occur due to field damage, as i understand, because it would require a lot of hard impacts. Maybe something to bear in mind as you do it. You've got a cool dramatic effect going so model it as you please! Another way you can convey zimmerit being done in a hurry - miss done surfaces. We often see the lower hull behind the wheels missing zimm, but also small 'tricky' areas like around the exhausts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Scratch-built tracks. I believe you may need professional help Sir. However I admire your can-do attitude and hearty approach to such an endeavour. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Hi Shaun. Well, what can I say......good luck with the tracks!! Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Thanks Stix hoping that you and your loved ones will have a blessed season. Regards: Shaun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, the South African said: Thanks Stix hoping that you and your loved ones will have a blessed season. Regards: Shaun Thank you very much Shaun and the same to you and yours. Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 O. K guys just dropping by really quick here. I will post some pics a bit later in the afternoon. I have started over with the tracks and have built the 1st one that with a bit of paint and weathering I might be able to pass as a panzer IV track. The section in itself consist of 6 parts in total and after making the raw template it takes more or les 2 minutes to assemble. Ooooh well just another 129 sections left. Regards: Shaun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hi Shaun. Just wondering if there has been any progress with your project? Kind regards, Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Hi all. I have to date not much to report but with the Decemer holidays gone and the visitors festivities kids seen to school etc etc all done I can now get back in the saddle and start work on the panzers again. Hoping to report progress by tonight. Regards: Shaun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) As promised some pics at long last. These six will be hung on the front glacis plate. They look much rougher than in real life on the camera but should do the trick when completed. As always all comments and critique is wrlcomed. Edited January 9, 2019 by the South African 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badder Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 hours ago, the South African said: As promised some pics at long last. These six will be hung on the front glacis plate. They look much rougher than in real life on the camera but should do the trick when completed. As always all comments and critique is wrlcomed. Hi Shaun, I gave the above post a 'sad' , 'Sad' because there is no option for 'OMG!' Seriously. OMG! Rearguards, Badder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftScience Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Crazy, man. Crazy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Thanks Badder. I am not entirely pleased with ho these are comming along as I think that the outer parts is a bit off but will probably end up correcting the said little problem with a stitchcutter as soon as the glue has set the stretched sprue in place. Regards: Shaun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Are you going to resin cast the best of those tracks for 2 complete track runs? Impressive work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the South African Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Hi Hewy I am going to make all of the tracks out of card on this one the best of the tracks will however be kept to cast at a later stage. Regards: Shaun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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