Kov1985 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Hello everyone, My next project entails a FW 190 A-4, and I want to do Walter Nowotny’s ”white 10” of spring 1943 - the white/green patchy scheme they all had at that time on the eastern front. Every artist’s rendition seems to feature the same patches and pattern so it leaves me to believe that there’s a decent side on image of the machine at least. I can’t find it. Does anyone have any decent pics of the actual machine? I’ve got one partial shot where he’s walking beside it with a cigar in his mouth, are there any others out there? thanks for your time everyone, and happy modelling. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bil Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Either there's a photo or..... ...... they're all copying the first profile based on ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kov1985 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 Good chance of it. No harm in throwing a line out there regardless, someone might have a pic. My point is he was famous pilot and it was quite a relatively famous plane. There’s gotta be more than that one pic out there of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Kov1985 said: Good chance of it. No harm in throwing a line out there regardless, someone might have a pic. My point is he was famous pilot and it was quite a relatively famous plane. There’s gotta be more than that one pic out there of it. Maybe, maybe not. there are a fair amount of JG54 Fw190 in winter camo here https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Fw-190A/JG54.html two of Nowotny, this is the one you refer too? they may have extrapolated the markings from the others? @FalkeEins and @tank152 would a good chaps to ask, this will notify them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kov1985 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 Yes, that’s the image I have. I’m just being pedantic here as always, but that’s part of the fun of it. It seems that the plane had its overall white wash applied over the factory 74/75/76 scheme for the winter, and then they’ve gone an sprayed some patches of RLM71? over that scheme for the Spring, hence the bits of overspray on the yellow band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, Kov1985 said: It seems that the plane had its overall white wash applied over the factory 74/75/76 scheme for the winter, and then they’ve gone an sprayed some patches of RLM71? over that scheme for the Spring, hence the bits of overspray on the yellow band. I'd suggest the other way around, the factory finish has been modified and then the winter camo applied over that HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kov1985 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 That’s what Eduard suggest in their kit, but I have to disagree. Look at the white around the “10” and the green heart. It looks like it was there first, and he’s just took a spray gun of dark green and filled in around it as quickly and crudely as possible. Didn’t even bother to tape off the yellow band around the cross hence the overspray. Just what it looks like to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kov1985 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 In Nowotny’s case at least. For the other examples you’ve shown, definitely, they look to be done differently to my estimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkeEins Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 7:35 AM, Kov1985 said: Every artist’s rendition seems to feature the same patches and pattern so it leaves me to believe that there’s a decent side on image of the machine at least. only one I can immediately think of appears in the Luftwaffe Gallery JG 54 'special' album - pilot climbing into the cockpit, view from the Balkenkreuz forward - much 'wider' shot. Still nothing aft of the fuselage cross.. These were first reproduced in Werner Held's German-language picture book biography of Nowotny AFAIK - not a book I've held onto - the Luftwaffe Gallery series on the other hand is and this title is still available here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 7:35 AM, Kov1985 said: Every artist’s rendition seems to feature the same patches and pattern so it leaves me to believe that there’s a decent side on image of the machine at least. Given the ability of people viewing photos to make differing interpretations, then such unanimity suggests to me that the artists are just copying each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kov1985 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 Beautiful. That’s another pic I haven’t seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkeEins Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 the partial view of the wing upper surface on the pic I've posted is interesting - is it shadow or a great big chunk of dark green ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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