rossm Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 A photo of this Hurricane, HH.E HV555 of 175 Squadron, appears in several of the books on Harrowbeer showing heavy exhaust staining and a high contrast to the camouflage. 175 were at Harrowbeer from 10th October to 9th December 1942 flying mostly convoy patrols and "Hurribomber" sorties. This is the Revell kit of the IIb with all it's faults apart from correcting the undercarriage rake for a better "sit". It follows on from the Spitfire I posted a few weeks ago as being part of my attempt to reduce the number of kits on the shelf of doom, having been there about 10 years. I used the specified mix of 7 parts Medium Sea Grey and 1 part night to create the interim "Mixed Grey" version of Ocean Grey used until supplies of "real" Ocean Grey became freely available as I felt this would give the high contrast as opposed to using standard Ocean Grey (it all depends on the film and filters used for the original photo). The decals are from Model/Xtradecal sheets plus some from the kit. The exhaust staining and some slight "dirtying" were done with the Humbrol Smoke weathering powder and a bit of "paint chipping" with a silver pencil. I will be adding bombs when I can track down the BM thread which tells me the colour to paint them. First a re-creation of the original photo complete with "grain" but not "on location" - one day I might take it to Harrowbeer as some of the dispersal pens still exist. Sorry for the colour of my cutting mat 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Your Hurricane looks great. What is wrong the Revell kit? I have this one to build and am oblivious... Regards, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Lovely piece of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 45 minutes ago, Dazey said: Your Hurricane looks great. What is wrong the Revell kit? I have this one to build and am oblivious... Regards, David I don't know exactly but the spine behind the canopy is too big as the canopy should slide over it, not butt up to it as per kit. Also I found the angles of the undercarriage all wrong, I fixed the rake but didn't spot that the legs also lean in toward the centre until too late. @Troy Smith is the man to ask for chapter and verse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, rossm said: I don't know exactly but the spine behind the canopy is too big as the canopy should slide over it, not butt up to it as per kit. Also I found the angles of the undercarriage all wrong, I fixed the rake but didn't spot that the legs also lean in toward the centre until too late. @Troy Smith is the man to ask for chapter and verse. Thanks for the information and prompt reply! Some of those things seem reasonably easy to fix (as long as I also remember before it's too late). I'll need to be careful when checking reference images when I get around to doing the Hurricane. Then there'll also be the question of the appropriate colours. All the best, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Dazey said: Thanks for the information and prompt reply! Some of those things seem reasonably easy to fix (as long as I also remember before it's too late). I'll need to be careful when checking reference images when I get around to doing the Hurricane. Then there'll also be the question of the appropriate colours. All the best, David A good reference for colours is the old Ducimus Camouflage and Markings booklet https://boxartden.com/reference/gallery/index.php/Modeling-References/Camoflage-Markings/03-Hawker-Hurricane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeR Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Dazey said: Your Hurricane looks great. What is wrong the Revell kit? I have this one to build and am oblivious... Regards, David I think another issue is that the wing chord is too wide, meaning that the wings are too broad fore and aft. It's fixable but a lot of work, I didn't bother on the two I built years ago. From what I can remember another thing to look out for is the wing assembly as it's easy to make the dihedral too flat - build the wings as a complete unit rather than the way the instructions show. Mike. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Dazey said: What is wrong the Revell kit? I have this one to build and am oblivious... Depends on what bugs you... As @rossm neat build shows it looks like a Hurricane/ IMO, it's one of the middling 72nd kits, not blinkin awful (two in this category are the ancient revell Mk.I and the much newer Airfix IIc) personally for me a kit that stuff up the fuselage fabric is on a hiding to nothing, as fixing it becomes such a chore that you either live with it, or reduce the problem, or get a better kit... in this case from https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234946479-sea-hurricane-mkiic-172-revell/ Somebody at Revell has made the fabric behind the canopy rail into a pretty triangle.... compare from there are other problems, wing chord, wheels, prop blades but the fabric fix is probably more effort than its worth. FWIW the only reasonably decent Hurricane IIc in 1/72 OOB os the AZ/Legato kit, but it's limited run and needs work on that front. The old Heller kit has a really good fuselage fabric, it has other issues, but I think they are correctable, I have a part done one in a box. At the mo all my stuff is boxed and am far too busy with far more mundane day to day issues.... a while back I got a load of Hurricane kits on ebay, with most of the 72nd ones I didn't have, so I should just do OOB builds of most of them to demonstrate the problems... 6 hours ago, rossm said: A photo of this Hurricane, HH.E HV555 of 175 Squadron, appears in several of the books on Harrowbeer showing heavy exhaust staining and a high contrast to the camouflage. 175 were at Harrowbeer from 10th October to 9th December 1942 flying mostly convoy patrols and "Hurribomber" sorties. Not seen this photo Ross, what books is it in? Always interested in Hurricane photos I've not seen, cheers T 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Troy Smith said: Not seen this photo Ross, what books is it in? Always interested in Hurricane photos I've not seen, cheers T Devon Aerodromes in Old Photographs - Keith A Saunders is the only one I have to hand but I think it's in Airfield Focus 27 - Harrowbeer - Jerry Brewer, on here as @brewerjerry and either the Dennis Teague book on Harrowbeer or the recent update of it by Steven Fryer - can't remember more and I'm away from my books at the mo, sorry. PM me an email address and I'll do my best to send you a decent copy. For a list of Hurricane photos in Devon/Cornwall have a look at http://www.hrmtech.com/sig/dctypes.asp but note I haven't updated it much recently. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 hours ago, MikeR said: I think another issue is that the wing chord is too wide, meaning that the wings are too broad fore and aft. It's fixable but a lot of work, I didn't bother on the two I built years ago. From what I can remember another thing to look out for is the wing assembly as it's easy to make the dihedral too flat - build the wings as a complete unit rather than the way the instructions show. Mike. 5 hours ago, Troy Smith said: IMO, it's one of the middling 72nd kits, not blinkin awful (two in this category are the ancient revell Mk.I and the much newer Airfix IIc) personally for me a kit that stuff up the fuselage fabric is on a hiding to nothing, as fixing it becomes such a chore that you either live with it, or reduce the problem, or get a better kit... in this case from https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234946479-sea-hurricane-mkiic-172-revell/ Hello Mike and Troy, Thanks for the additional information – that will come in very handy when the time comes. Regards, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Nice job on that Ross, for all the Revell kit's acknowledged faults, I 've yet to see a decently made one that didn't also "look" right, as yours does by the bucket load. The u/c correction you mention is new to me though, can you expand on that please. I've several of these in stock in various guises & know there are some easy corrections worth doing, the tougher ones, maybe not for me. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossm Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 hours ago, stevehnz said: Nice job on that Ross, for all the Revell kit's acknowledged faults, I 've yet to see a decently made one that didn't also "look" right, as yours does by the bucket load. The u/c correction you mention is new to me though, can you expand on that please. I've several of these in stock in various guises & know there are some easy corrections worth doing, the tougher ones, maybe not for me. Steve. Pictures from Troy to show the rake issue are here https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235046466-revell-172-hurricane-ii-quick-question/ and I caught that one.......... but not the sideways angle where I pushed both locating pins fully home and got this Looks like I also missed the dihedral issue mentioned by MikeR above! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Thanks Ross for that photo & link to the explanation & also @MikeR for the wing tip, things to look out for, forewarned, forearmed etc. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch K Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Very nice build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell209 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 22 hours ago, rossm said: one day I might take it to Harrowbeer as some of the dispersal pens still exist. They've got a nice little museum there with the tea room, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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