Abandoned Project Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Does anyone know if there are any window decals for the ilyushin il-86 that are not set into the ubiquitous aeroflot blue stripe that to has proved to be so popular with the livery designers? Or is it possible to use the windows in the kit to good effect? I am planning a Palair Macedonian whif paint scheme. Edited March 9, 2019 by dadofthree Fat fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbofan Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Hi, There are windows on the Revell IL-86 decal sheet which aren't in a cheatline if you can get hold of one of those. http://dacoproducts.com/R53Dg.jpg Alternatively, I would imagine you could use these https://www.authentic-airliner-decals.de/epages/17895661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/17895661/Products/D144-01 Hope this helps. Cheers, Ian Edited April 4, 2020 by Turbofan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 If you're not determined to have a clear windscreen PAS do a "photo real" windscreen decal which would go quite well with the Authentic Airliners generic windows mentioned by Ian. Dave G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Thank you Ian and Dave, that homework is very helpful, much appreciated. I do have some spare 747 windows but the Revell sheet has doors as well which would be just the thing for my cunning plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 before i close my fuselage do i need to add some weight or is this one not a tail dragger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusti Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) deleted Edited March 30, 2020 by Kusti link to the photo deleted 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 @Kusti, engine fences duly noted, thank you. I have some fishing weights that should be ample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusti Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) deleted Edited March 30, 2020 by Kusti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busnproplinerfan Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) I have this kit not built yet, was hoping to keep it from the box, now I see it's needs a bit of tweaking. Edited August 26, 2019 by busnproplinerfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 Before someone tells me to sit in the corner wearing a conical hat with a big D on it, would I be better off using white primer for a red (humbrol 19) fuselage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Abandoned Project said: Before someone tells me to sit in the corner wearing a conical hat with a big D on it, would I be better off using white primer for a red (humbrol 19) fuselage? There's no such thing as a silly question!! Personally I always use white primer for red paint. You can get red primer ( a sort of red oxide colour) from Halfords but I've never tried it. It's meant to be used with red automotive paint and I would be wary of it changing the final shade of Humbrol 19 which is an enamel with a relatively translucent pigment. White primer is the safe option. As a matter of general practice, if you're trying a new technique or using an unfamiliar product for the first time it's a good idea to experiment on a scrap model before tackling your masterpiece. Dave G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 My plan was to use white primer so I will carry on with plan A. I am not a fan of red oxide primer which AFAIK is supposed to be used on rust patches before normal grey primer and paint to stop it rusting any further but it is hygroscopic which defeats the object of the exercise. I have plenty of scrap 747 pieces to practice with so I am OK on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stringbag Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I was once advised by a very good auto painter that the best primer colour for red or orange top colours was grey. Apparently it reduces the number of spray passes required to achieve a good solid finish. I've not tried this on a model yet, preferring to stick with Dave's suggestion and sticking with white. Chris. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 I had thought about a base coat of yellow as I have seen this used to good effect on some royal navy SAR sea kings but thought it might make the red a bit too orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom3r Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Abandoned Project said: Before someone tells me to sit in the corner wearing a conical hat with a big D on it, would I be better off using white primer for a red (humbrol 19) fuselage? I might come with the radical answer but lot of times I heard from car modelers that for the colors like red, orange or yellow the best primer is black. I tried it with 40k spacemarines as a primer for red and blue and quite like it. While black color is slightly changing the color to being a bit dark it creates quite a good contrast that is perceived as shadow and depth. PS: I was using black primer with Tamiya acrylic colors so have no idea how would humbrol behave. Edited September 14, 2019 by Doom3r 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) @Doom3r, funny you should say that as I am already planning to use black as the primer for a blue 748. All paints to be used are rattle cans so hopefully there shouldn't be a problem. Edited September 14, 2019 by Abandoned Project clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 What is the best grey for the wings on my camber? I have Halfords racking grey and Holt's HL01 grey or do I need another rattle can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbofan Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Hi, I'd say either Halfords or Holts would be fine no need to buy anything else! Cheers, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 I shall bow to your superior knowledge and go with holts HL01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shashman Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 18/11/2018 at 01:27, Skodadriver said: If you're not determined to have a clear windscreen PAS do a "photo real" windscreen decal which would go quite well with the Authentic Airliners generic windows mentioned by Ian. Dave G Hey guys, sorry to go a bit off-topic, but have you ordered from PAS before? The site is an in Russian and I have no idea how trustworthy they are. How is shipping, etc? They have a great selection of Russian decals (and others to be fair, very large selection!) and I've been tempted. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I have ordered from PAS many times. Their service is efficient and reliable. Andrei is good to deal with and writes excellent English. Google Translate is your friend for understanding the site although it seems to get stuck with things like "Add to Cart" buttons and you may need to switch between English and Russian when you are actually placing the order. The way it works is slightly unusual. You do your order on the site but don't pay at that stage. Andrei will send you an e-mail confirming the order and requesting payment via Paypal. Only then do you make your Paypal payment. Slightly strange but easy enough when you're used to it. Be aware that the postal charges for kits are high and uneconomical for small orders. Also, the last time I ordered PAS were imposing a Paypal surcharge although I can't remember how much it was. If you order through the site they charge a flat rate of 350RUB (roughly £3.70) for worldwide shipping of decals which is a lot less that you would pay for postage if you bought their decals on eBay. Hope that's some help Dave G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shashman Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hey Dave, sorry your reply slipped under the radar! Thanks, that sounds like a good enough endorsement to me. Now off to have a browse 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abandoned Project Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 06/04/2020 at 09:50, Shashman said: Hey guys, sorry to go a bit off-topic, but have you ordered from PAS before? On 06/04/2020 at 10:29, Skodadriver said: I have ordered from PAS many times. Their service is efficient and reliable. 6 hours ago, Shashman said: Hey Dave, sorry your reply slipped under the radar! Thanks, that sounds like a good enough endorsement to me. good to know that. Off to browse too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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