Mikey-1980 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) Morning all! Whilst up at Hack Green, the not so secret Nuclear Bunker, just west of Natwich in Chesire for the "celebration" of my 38th year of being ejected into this world, I spotted this unusual variant of an RAF B-17. I'm guessing it was adapted for the Royal Oberserver Corps during the late 1940's early 50's. Maybe an idea for someone to adapt a B-17G? DSC_1839 DSC_1840 DSC_1841 DSC_1842 DSC_1845 I hope I managed to get some decent shots? There was also a fantastically HUGE model of a Shackleton when you enter the bunker too. DSC_1847 DSC_1848 Also, on gaurd duty, a nice little Jet Provest. DSC_1850 Edited November 15, 2018 by Mikey-1980 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 B-17 looks lije the type used by the U.S.Coast Guard and other services. Its the SB-17G Air sea rescue version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey-1980 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 That certainly does look very similar to the RAF model I saw. I wasn't aware that the B-17 was used in this format for the RAF and the observer corps? Would make a great subject for anyone looking to build a slightly unusual B-17 variant? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 What Dennis said- it sure looks like an SAR SB-17G, but the air-droppable lifeboat appears to be a British version, as the hull is not nearly as long and is more blunt at the stern than the one in the photo CFFU posted. The serial appears to be BU219, which is weird, as my searching for RAF B-17G (Fortress III) serials came up with 85 that were accepted by the RAF. the 1st 30 came from Boeing and the remainder came from Lockheed-Vega. The RAF serials were all in the HB- KH- KJ- and Kl- blocks, so not sure what's up with that serial on the model. Interesting! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I suspect the model is a ‘what if’. It certainly resembles a SB-17G, but I’ve never seen one in RAF service. As far as my research over the years suggests, any Forts remaining with the RAF at the cessation of hostilities either were scrapped or returned to the US as part of the lend-lease programme and all were gone by late 1946. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Arnold Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Hi all For anyone that wants to build this SB17G it is available in 72nd scale by Academy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Geoff Arnold said: Hi all For anyone that wants to build this SB17G it is available in 72nd scale by Academy. Yep- I meant to post that; kit 2165 Thanks for reminding me, Geoff. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey-1980 Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Fantastic research and knowledge by all again. I knew that someone who know what this was Incidentally, there is a kit being sold on FleeBay right now https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Academy-Boeing-SB-17-AIR-RESCUE-SERVICE-1-72-Sealed-Bags/264013300704?hash=item3d786b43e0:g:OrwAAOSws0pb124o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 The BU219,( not an RAF seial!!) is most likely an adaption of the USAF buzz number system B indicating Bomber type the U for utility and the last three of the US serial number. Normally shown on aircraft as BU-219 for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Paul J said: The BU219,( not an RAF seial!!) is most likely an adaption of the USAF buzz number system B indicating Bomber type the U for utility and the last three of the US serial number. Normally shown on aircraft as BU-219 for example Hadn't thought of that one, Paul, but looking at a list I have of USAAF/USAF buzz numbers, BU was not allocated, but BA for the B-17 was. I have attached a link to the list of buzz numbers that some of you might find useful for modeling projects. Mike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 17 hours ago, tomprobert said: I suspect the model is a ‘what if’. It certainly resembles a SB-17G, but I’ve never seen one in RAF service. As far as my research over the years suggests, any Forts remaining with the RAF at the cessation of hostilities either were scrapped or returned to the US as part of the lend-lease programme and all were gone by late 1946. Tom One was at Farnborough until about 1950 IIRC, but it was silver overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Interesting shots! I'm familiar with the Anstruther "Secret Bunker", the Scottish example of these cold war museum- but they don't have a Nuke! Looks like a WE177 free fall weapon under that Shackleton- I must add this location to the list of spots the wife and I "Happen across" on one of our trips out. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Troffa said: Interesting shots! I'm familiar with the Anstruther "Secret Bunker", the Scottish example of these cold war museum- but they don't have a Nuke! Looks like a WE177 free fall weapon under that Shackleton- I must add this location to the list of spots the wife and I "Happen across" on one of our trips out. 🙂 Yes, that is a WE 177A fitted with mace lugs for fitting to a Tornado, ahh the memories.🤐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey-1980 Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 As always, thoroughly amazxed by everyones knowldge and resources of information. If you get a chance to visit Hack Green, it is worth it. £9 entry, andI believe if you retain your ticket it's free entry for the rest of the year. anyone who remembers the smells from the N.A.F.F.I will certainly be reminded again of the smells, and the mess furniture too. https://hackgreen.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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