Fritag Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, perdu said: Just a thought, as well as the Airfix Gnat I think I still have an Airfix JP4 in its starter kit guise... Would it be terribly predictable of me to suggest that a little gnatty and/or a JP suitably perdu’d would increase the sum of human happiness?.......In which case utilitarian philosophy mandates that this is what you should do 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 11 hours ago, Fritag said: Would it be terribly predictable of me to suggest that a little gnatty and/or a JP suitably perdu’d would increase the sum of human happiness?.......In which case utilitarian philosophy mandates that this is what you should do Agreed. Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 …and me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 I have heard that this is an interesting parts-fit Have seen nothing yet to disabuse me of that notion Back-in-the-box... This will be an 'if I am a bit bored today build. No WIP 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Oooh. A neat little Gnat. Now that's a nice choice. But no WIP 😱 Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Too much time bogged down in WIPs already Terry, sorrymate, but if you want a Gnat WIP you cant do better than @Cheshiretaurus light in the nose one Hover round his Hawk and Gnat thread and have a proper nice time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 I did mention hearing about 'fit' issues on the Gnat, sadly not to be avoided so not a shake and glue job Dammit I was right to wonder The upper wing will not sit down onto the fuselage unit, good job I have needle files. For a highly technical 'looking' mould this is awful Bring on the files... And the clamps As this IS the S-61N build you will note that I found these strange little triangular pieces on my tattered old Airwaves etchyset I was looking at a downloaded .PDF off the Big H website which gave me a detailed reminder of what was on their etch sheet Upper 'drilled' triangular webs for the undercarriage of any Sea King variant, had to didn't I? Now I need to order another one or two, 'cause the Eduard set doesn't even try to show these and I am embarrassed because I once knew these were on the Airwaves etch set but forgot. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 13 hours ago, perdu said: For a highly technical 'looking' mould this is awful It seems to rely on making the cockpit floor sit as deep into its snug little locators as possible, but even then there are height issues where the wing unit sits over the back cockpit wall arch... Proceeding carries on... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 Not everything flies around at 500 mph ish This is still flavour of the month, but some things are not nice. I mean how shall I make this replicate this? I do have this But I don't want to even consider that because I am seriously planning for Putting these together and Making another S-61N with maybe Oirish markings and a rescue innards set... Of course if I do I can consider using these on the BA Speedbird The rotor head is slightly less compromised than the elderly Airfix SH-3 one.. A long time ago our mate CedB sent me some spare CD jewel cases because I moaned that I was running out of vital raw materials for scratchbuilding. Being cautious at the time, (don'tcha know there's a warpandemic on?) I didn't open them when they came but put them in postoffice purdah in the garage. Tonight, looking at the raw materials for another S-61N I finally opened the package. Ced you old cynic you, no cracks or breaks anywhere. Thank you immensely Ced, you are a gentleman. A very generous one it must be said too. Oh well a can and some inessential telly await, catch you later folks. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, perdu said: Not everything flies around at 500 mph ish In which case I propose that it can’t really be called ‘flying’. Perhaps meandering? (PS a jag attack run back in the day was 480kts = 550mph. 500mph? - pah ). 28 minutes ago, perdu said: I mean how shall I make this replicate this? OMG. To think I have been carried about the place in something that required such complexity to fly meander 😱 In answer to the question Bill. I dunno. But I look forward with a keen sense of anticipation to whatever you choose to serve us up next Edited June 10, 2021 by Fritag 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Nice Clamping and pondering Bill. I do enjoy your threads. 😇 Jont. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I'll bite. You be got me on the edge of my seat wondering how you're going to make a fully articulated rotor head from a CD case. I know you've pulled some rabbits out of the hat before Bill, but... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Hi Bill, I'm being facetious but maybe a ring of Goldilocks pan scourer for the rotorhead piping. Well from a distance it could look convincing! Colin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 I wonder if the S-61Ns would have all the self parking gubbinses the naval ones had or could I get away with a bit less? Research time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 My crystal ball tells me that you have several miles of 5amp fuse wire and copious quantities of broken tiny drill bits in your immediate future. Mystic Martian 👽 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 19 hours ago, perdu said: mean how shall I make this replicate this? That looks very much like a Sea King folding head to me, with the big hinges and plethora of hydraulic lines for the blade fold system. Your S-61 head should be non-folding so a bit simpler. Simpler? Okay then - a bit less complex. I haven't looked in on this thread for a while, but I see the cab is coming along nicely! Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 How many broken .03 drills you want M. Le Alien visitor? This might explain my purchase, several (well a couple of..) years ago of 4 packs of fuse wire units. I wonder where I put them... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 Jon you are a star, cheers mate. Less but still slightly complex... Hell yeah, we can do dat! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 I S H ! You lot worry me some times. However in the spirit of cooperation and adventurous venture made famous in here I did give it a bit of a go. Ridding myself of the fear of over-complication induced by that photo of a sea board Sea King with miracle foldybits all over it I tackled my mountain of S-61N and L pictures in search of wot it is up there Which seems to be a setup including a device which seems to have rotor vibration reducing as its prime function that sits atop the actual rotor gear. This has a name which has escaped from a minimised realm of captivity in my head and which I think I only heard of last year so I will call it the star shaped weighted device that sits atop the rotor ge... Well you know, its on the rotor head here I think A crap picture I know but hey look it up for your self huh? There is a star shaped thing with thick weights at each end, positioned over the rotor gear, so I needed a star shaped thing from the spares. I know let's use this, probably never get to use it on a model... Snip away the unwanted bits No - properly File some flats on each of those arms and put away for later, and begin modifying the Airfixery A snip here a slice there... But please be careful with the delicate, elderly Airfix plastic... Ahhh Oh well, on with the mot... Pentagonal star shape in location prior to adding the balance weights And now to add the pitch change devices Paint and trim those when the glue has dried, we might be on a reasonable copy of a win here. Not forgetting the rectangular balance damper weights on the star shapy-thingy. That is me for a bit, catch you all later. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Nice reallocation of rotary bits Bill. Simple but effective and adds a nice touch of visual "complexity' to the rotor head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 3 hours ago, hendie said: Nice reallocation of rotary bits Bill. Simple but effective and adds a nice touch of visual "complexity' to the rotor head. I couldn't agree more! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 And me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 Me? I was that unhappy. Nothing to do with fussball either, the little blobby bits that comprise the damper set-up just were not convincing. They needed to protrude from below the dome section atop the rotors so I had a rethink These little dobbets of @John Aerostrut materials were reduced from the aerodynamic shape to this blobby section. Unfortunately my stuporgoo was unable to 'catch' on them and in fitting the stems fell off, boo. In service there seems to have been two variants of counterweight, the above curvy ones and some other more angular block shapes. I decided to go for the latter carved out of nice thick plasticard in the end. These are busy looking and stick out nicely from the upper dome. This looks like being the done deal, let's have us a quick looksee? Yep, that'll do. Time for another bench purrups today... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 I'm no expert, but that rotor head looks suitably busy to me Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 On 12/06/2021 at 08:21, perdu said: star shapy-thingy. Ahhh a man from my own heart. 😀😇 Wonderful sir. Simply wonderful. 🤩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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