perdu Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 Cheers me dears, not entirely sure my next idea was a good one. Because I have it and it could enhance a boring top view, Airfix didnt exactly enhance the upperworks of their old Sea King did they, I have begun adding the Airwaves photoetch. Mostly because I am revelling in owning a jar of Gator's Grip Thin as recommended by Ex-FAAWAFU and seeking places to use it. So, there is etch for the mesh works atop the General Electric CT58 engines and around the transmission deck area. This means get drastic though, I will be sorry. I will be sorry! You would think a study in a north facing room would allow the flash to work wouldntcha? Sorry but I find it hard enough to wrangle pictures out of my camera into Win eversobloodyirritating 10 as it is, so it is wot we got! Like I say sorry. Anyway the huge (relatively) mesh section gave me the willies, if I just glue this to the engine deck it will get the glue right through and look like a sore on the top which needs picking... So I carved a hole, then blacked the edges with a black felt tip so the didn't show up white later through the mesh. This of course is going to leach through onto the upperworks paint job, Sod needs his tributes, but I hope the leaching will be minimal... Anyway after chopping away two ounces of fine, fine Airfix plastic I manipulated the flat etch to be more like a mesh that sits atop a pair of curved surfaces. And popped it onto the hole with Gator's Grip Thin. At the same time I took a chance with the grid behind the engines just above the jet effluxes and drilled out two holes to give depth and then lightly chased out the shapes to allow it to sit in the deckway. Look. Bill made the flash work at last. No I don't know why the flash makes the space below look like the yellow hi-build primer either, but suspect it may be the the colour of the edges of the brass being un-dye coated and showing up. Not that I care, now it is in that is where it stays. And then after writing that poncy tosh decided to shift the main mesh sideways a little to get it lined up better over the cavity void. The discolouration must have been the edges of the brass because I did this one from overhead and just get the grey interior of the hole. Right, looks like Sunday. Is it Sunday? Oh well someone will know I betya. Ciao. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 That PE really adds to the realism Bill - nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 2 hours ago, CedB said: That PE really adds to the realism Bill - nice I totally concur! I'm also very much looking forward to when this patchy looking plastic block will turn into a finely painted helichopper, it is always an amazing experience 👍 Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 Cheers medears I will start canopy masking today then begin 'snagging' again. Lost count of how many times I have reached 'snagging' before having to redo from middle. Ho ho... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 that's all looking rather tickety boo Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley John Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 As Uniform Uniform Delta Hotel Hotel Hope you find these useful, there are a couple more if needed. If anyone is interested I also have S76's in Bond/North Scottish, B Cal & Bristows colours as well as B Cal's Bell 214. Hope I'm not hijacking your thread with these. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I'm astounded that you got Airwaves PE to fit But then again, you did have to cut a whole to fit it. That might explain it! Nicely done anyway! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 John I am glad you have allowed me to share these with you they are great Definitely NO HIJACK but a welcome entry for me I hope someone comes in and offers the S76 and Bell 214 shots a home Tell you what post 'em here and I will open a file to suit each in my hard drive's modelling files, be happy to share them Really Ian it looks as if these are a really well shaped set of etches, very pleased with them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley John Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Absolutely my pleasure to share them Sir. My way of saying thank you and to give something back to you and the BM massive for all I've learned from you all. I'll put some more on tomorow. If that's alright? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley John Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 As promised some more pics Think that's about it for the 61. I was sure I had more but where they've gone in the intervening years I have no idea. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harley John Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 A big B Cal Bell Last one for tonight. Back on shift tomorrow but will post some S76 naughtiness when I get a chance. Hope these are of use to somebody. Regards John 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 Thank you John, gratefully saved mate. For anyone's info; if you are modelling one of these types in future just ask me to repost them if they will help you, I have a few zillion pictures stored in the pooter. Access for all OK? Now time for her majesty. After fitting the upperworks cooling grilles I could see I had an awful lot more which might be usefully put on the model but which seem generally to vanish into the paintwork. Now never do this at home #203021 Decide to modify a perspex™ part that has already been settled into the polystyrene model. On the etch sheet there was a reasonable grille to cover the tail pylon transmission gearbox cooling mesh so I had to tackle the Perspex™ to open the space behind the grille. Not a wise decision, a notably dumb thing to do. Oh well we do what we do don't we? The inevitable thing happened. So I got on with hacking away the recess, prior to inserting a piece of silver rod for a drive shaft. The etch on the sheet isnt a great shape but has most of the necessary elements, it will do. The real thing is a more complicated piece but this will adapt, the hole is in the right place as are the thin rails. The purple etch resist has has a little bath in acetone, looks better already. Now with the bottom corner turned into a wedge shape it is more rep.resentative of the proper mesh pieces together. Sadly once I start this kind of daftness more needs to be done, just because so the grilles on the upper part of the pylon get a look in too. Some GG Thin and some cyano because I can file cyano once it is set. And oh yes, under the tailplane. Nearly forgot! Set of big decisions looms ahead, there are a fair number of etch grilles to put on around the CT58 intakes but they don't show well on photographs so... Do I put off finishing this further? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 49 minutes ago, perdu said: Do I put off finishing this further? No! Carry on please… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Oh boy! But do keep on, please Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, perdu said: And oh yes, under the tailplane. Nearly forgot! Oooops, wrong side, Bill - that one should be under the bulge on the tail rotor side, rather than the tailplane itself: Edited May 26, 2020 by andyf117 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 On 7/16/2019 at 4:58 PM, Terry1954 said: I'm all for this sort of scheme on the Junglies myself ........... First Wessex I ever laid eyes on for real was in "spinach and sand". It was love at first sight............. Terry Good man Terry, as an ex Junglie and having served on 845 NAS (1965/66) when we still had Sand and Spinach, I can only agree. Colin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, andyf117 said: Oooops, wrong side, Bill - that one should be under the bulge on the tail rotor side, rather than the tailplane itself... Bill I think we may have to turn you into a rivet counter. I would have never spotted that grilll. Nice to see your progress. Sorry I've been away for a while... Colin 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Harley John said: A big B Cal Bell Last one for tonight. Back on shift tomorrow but will post some S76 naughtiness when I get a chance. Hope these are of use to somebody. Regards John Wow John, looking at that 'Big Lifter, thanks for posting the images. I've a had a yearning to build one for a while. I have an old ESCI Huey which could become the guineypig! Colin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 hours ago, andyf117 said: Oooops, wrong side, Bill - that one should be under the bulge on the tail rotor side, rather than the tailplane itself... I kinda beg to differ Andy mate All my very meagre references to the tail area show the grill there vis: This is the much and unnecessarily reviled Airwaves set for the Sea Kings from which it is possible to make disclaiming notions because S-61N is not a Sea king as defined on the bag but I offer reference two: This is my other/only other reference to the tail end and was found during an internet search which may be from someone's pride and joy model I believe this was a set of instructions for a S-61N and willingly acknowledge to whoever owns it their rights Whichever it is it clearly discusses the grill under the tailplane Colin as long as you are happy with what is coming out of my cack-handed efforts I am happy sir Does this mean that the collective wants me hacking holes in the front of the engine housing for grills to be attached? Therefore I will begin (Andy I do still have other grills for the other side, not yet decided if it's worth bothering) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, perdu said: I kinda beg to differ Andy mate All my very meagre references to the tail area show the grill there (Andy I do still have other grills for the other side, not yet decided if it's worth bothering) Added a couple of photos, apparently at the same time you were posting the above - both S-61N's, showing the grill under the TRGB bulge.... ....I have the same Airwaves set, and the odd bit is spurious - the triangular grill at the front of the one you've already fitted on top of the engine bay, for example... ....as for the one in question, their instructions simply show putting it on the wrong side - can't comment on the S-61N one you've also pictured, though... ....but no grille visible under the starboard side here: Edited May 26, 2020 by andyf117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 All good stuff, but inconclusive, I do have pictures of the grill in the background of shots but for some reason nobody seems interested in picturing the working bits at the back I am seeking decent references for the tail hinges and stiffeners I am unhappy with many of the grills for the engine ends of the model and might just decide to use grill decals for them instead of excavating the thickest plastic Airfix ever put on a model in my own personal experience, to fit on mostly wrong shaped grills anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 I think I see the grill where posited by the destructions on this one too But my real reason for posting it is as a statement of intent I love this one, obviously having had a radar nose removed but not going to the wasted expense of fitting a new front window Having hugely bulgy windows all over it, another photo shows a pair of bulges up front and another pair back down the cabin plus magnificently ungainly legs This S-61N (whatever) needs making soon... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, perdu said: This S-61N (whatever) needs making soon... Them engine intake grilles could be fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 They will be easy of course Ish ish ish Now we have the method of art imitating mesh Ish 😱 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyf117 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Do the very shiny very pointy front bits remind you of anything Madonna-ish? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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