SA80A2AR Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) very nice Edited January 23, 2019 by SA80A2AR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Thanks Brock Close inspection shows lots of tiny micro-bubbles in the resin: on Flickr Worried that the wash would highlight them, I used Bill's tip and wiped PPP over the surface with a wet cotton bud. That done I started trimming and cutting the hangers. There's a step on the bottom of each one that makes them sit proud of the ledge on the main bay: Are they supposed to sit proud? Who knows… not me for sure and the reference photos don't show them that well. They're angled metal too rather than solid blocks. Ho hum, stick 'em in. Dry fitted to the bay, I then tried two washes, Citadel Seraphim Sepia and Nulm Oil: I'll see what they're like when they dry. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Looks lovely to me Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, CedB said: Very white inside the bay, isn't it? I used the prime portal reference shots. Obviously cleaned up for public consumption Ced. Inside the bomb bay was always greasy, sticky, and oily, particularly around the mixing chamber (black thing in the middle). That oil (was it OF4?) got absolutely everywhere and working around that mixing chamber was even worse as the oils and grease seemed to react with the surface making it extra icky. MEK was about the only thing that would get it off your skin at the end of the day. That and a good rub with scotchbrite I think the cross pieces are supposed to be mounted clear of the pressure hull, but I'm sure an ex liney will be along shortly to confirm that 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vit79 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 This is my bombay build from scratch 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Thanks hendie, I'll dirty it up some more! Nice bay vit - looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Good work Ced, I think you are nearly there with the bay. My kit will very definitely be having a date with Evergreen rather than resin, more so since Vit has shown us what can be achieved. This thread is proving very educational for those of us that have this particular kit and I think we owe you our thanks for sticking with it when man might have long since consigned it to the bin. Martian 👽 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Martian Hale said: This thread is proving very educational for those of us that have this particular kit And those of us who used to have two of the things and are now very grateful we no longer do....!! Keith 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Thanks Martian - I think scratch is probably the way to go (sorry Alleycat) Keith you may have saved yourself - see how you feel when she's finished! Bay dirtied: I couldn't think of any reason not to glue the wings on, so I started with the bits where it touched from and back: You can probably see where the sides don't fit - I'll work my way down those, checking the wing roots. Carefully. Back here: @stever219 commented: "Also aircraft pre-wingtip ESM pod fit lacked the vortex generators on the outer wing panels so they can come off.i. In their place however you will need to install a long shallow fence just inboard of the outer end of the aileron, and running for most of the chord of the wing ahead of the aileron." Steve I can chop off the VGs but do you have any pictures/details of 'the fence' please? Ta. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 If something doesn't look too good on close inspection, then don't inspect it closely is what I say. I also say:- If in trouble or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout. Just saying. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, CedB said: Bay dirtied: Very effective! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Thanks John - good advice! Thanks Giorgio - means a lot coming from one of my weathering gurus The hunt for the fence. Can't see it here: Nice video though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 More careful glueing. The front of the bay is aligned and glued now with some thinned Humbrol filler in the small gap: I learned from the Humbrol site that you can thin the filler with Liquid poly and this is my first try. Looks good so far. By the way, I have been checking the wing root join and it looks OK so far (famous last words…) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 Small root gap filled with sprue goo to fill and strengthen: I'll leave that to dry and then check the bay / resin gaps. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Interesting tip about thinning the filler, duly filed away in my Martian brain. Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_c67 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Re: the sticky UV glue, would a thin layer of gloss varnish help? I found I had a similar problem using Hammerite silver spray paint on my Meteor build where it was still sticky to touch two days later. A quick blast with a gloss varnish solved that problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 That's all starting to look like a Nimrod! Nice tip about the filler too - I will be giving that a go. Regards, Adrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 7 hours ago, CedB said: some thinned Humbrol filler in the small gap: One thing I've found thinning Squadron green putty with liquid poly Ced is that it takes longer to dry than when it's unthinned - it can also seem to be fully dry but it actually has just formed a 'crust' on the outside. I don't use humbrol filler so don't know if it's the same.... K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I think you could dare a little more dirt...may be something ....blackish... Anyway it looks impressive!!!! And with the wing on she start looking the real thing!!! Well done!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 9 hours ago, CedB said: Thanks Martian - I think scratch is probably the way to go (sorry Alleycat) Keith you may have saved yourself - see how you feel when she's finished! Bay dirtied: I couldn't think of any reason not to glue the wings on, so I started with the bits where it touched from and back: You can probably see where the sides don't fit - I'll work my way down those, checking the wing roots. Carefully. Back here: @stever219 commented: "Also aircraft pre-wingtip ESM pod fit lacked the vortex generators on the outer wing panels so they can come off.i. In their place however you will need to install a long shallow fence just inboard of the outer end of the aileron, and running for most of the chord of the wing ahead of the aileron." Steve I can chop off the VGs but do you have any pictures/details of 'the fence' please? Ta. Ced, you can see most of the fence/antenna at about 1 minute 50 in your video; sorry I haven’t had a chance to look further yet this evening being chief cook and pot-washer here in Cardboard Close. I’ll try to find some more references shortly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Ced , looks very fine to me, altough I'm not a specialist on the Nimrod at all, I have to admit. Like it so far! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 22 hours ago, Martian Hale said: Interesting tip about thinning the filler, duly filed away in my Martian brain. Martian 👽 Thanks Martian - worked well for me 21 hours ago, charlie_c67 said: Re: the sticky UV glue, would a thin layer of gloss varnish help? I found I had a similar problem using Hammerite silver spray paint on my Meteor build where it was still sticky to touch two days later. A quick blast with a gloss varnish solved that problem. Thanks Charlie - I'll (try to) remember that for next time - which may be soon if I'm not happy with the lights later. 20 hours ago, AdrianMF said: That's all starting to look like a Nimrod! Nice tip about the filler too - I will be giving that a go. Regards, Adrian Thanks Adrian - try it, worked well for me 16 hours ago, keefr22 said: One thing I've found thinning Squadron green putty with liquid poly Ced is that it takes longer to dry than when it's unthinned - it can also seem to be fully dry but it actually has just formed a 'crust' on the outside. I don't use humbrol filler so don't know if it's the same.... K Not for me Keith - nicely dry this morning 16 hours ago, Massimo said: I think you could dare a little more dirt...may be something ....blackish... Anyway it looks impressive!!!! And with the wing on she start looking the real thing!!! Well done!!! Thanks Massimo 14 hours ago, stever219 said: Ced, you can see most of the fence/antenna at about 1 minute 50 in your video; sorry I haven’t had a chance to look further yet this evening being chief cook and pot-washer here in Cardboard Close. I’ll try to find some more references shortly. Thanks Steve and I hope the chores went well Still can't see the fence (sorry) so more help would be appreciated - I'm being dense... the VGs are off though (see below) 14 hours ago, bbudde said: Ced , looks very fine to me, altough I'm not a specialist on the Nimrod at all, I have to admit. Like it so far! Thanks Ben Vortex generators gone: on Flickr I thought I'd use the closed doors to mask the bay but: Oh dear. Looks like the resin has pushed the lower fuselage out. Rats. Won't be noticeable once the doors are on (hopefully). I'll need to mask with tape then (groan). The thinned Humbrol filler worked well: Can you see the join? No? Good: Now then, I can see another problem - the resin is below the fuselage on this side. Hmmm. I'm not sure what happened there are the resin roof locates in the resin bulkhead and that can't be crooked (I don't think). That made me go back and look at this earlier photo: Looks a bit wobbly eh? Too late now and I think it'll be OK when the doors are on. That's two things I'm hoping will be covered up. Fingers crossed. Finally, I girded my loins and tested the resin windscreen 'hot water' treatment on the bit of thin resin left on the block. Worked fine and my worries about it 'melting' were unfounded. That's let me go from this: … to, currently, this: Much better as the tape's just holding it rather than squeezing, but I think I'll have another go at that back right edge (in the photo) once my courage returns. It does look a bit straight and I think I can get it just right. Gulp. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 You will be fine Ced and don't forget you still have the original kit canopy if everything does go to rat poo. Although th Alley Cat canopy is more accurate, the model will still look every inch a Nimrod if you do have to use the Airfix item. In fact, having seen the hassle the rein canopy has given you, I may well accept the inaccuracy of the Airfix part on mine in return for an easier and more enjoyable build. Supportive of Mars 👽 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Well done on the windscreen, Buffers! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Procopius said: Well done on the windscreen, Buffers! Well done indeed! A mix of bravery and patience, I reckon And good job with the seams too! Ciao Edited January 25, 2019 by giemme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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