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Admiral Puff

Preliminary inquiry - correction for Academy Catalina.

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Gingerbob, potential warp/weight is exactly what I had in mind when thinking of the entire center section... which is why I was recalling the way CED did their Privateer conversion.  Less chance of warp and weight when only dealing with nacelles.

 

Plug-n-play is nice, but sometimes just not totally possible/practical... and I look at it from the standpoint that SOME sort of conversion is better than NO conversion at all.  I like having at least some sort of base to even attempt working with.

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18 hours ago, J.C. Bahr said:

SOME sort of conversion is better than NO conversion at all.  I like having at least some sort of base to even attempt working with.

I agree! Since there are correct props, engines, and exhausts already out there in the aftermarket, as far as I'm concerned, if I had a decent set of cowlings, nacelle fairings, and oil coolers, I'd be very happy. The nacelle fairings, which don't really have anything in the way of details, just a few panel lines, could be done as vacforms, which I am betting would then fit over the existing underscale kit fairings, which could be filed down or even removed, if need be. What do you think?

Mike

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OK, I'm back from Canberra and things have progressed.

 

Red Roo have indicated that they will market the conversion if I do the masters, so that's my task for this week ...

 

As things look at present, the set will involve new nacelles to replace the Academy ones; ditto the cowls. The "no cut" alternative doesn't stack up as far as price is concerned. No decision yet on whether we will include engines ... I will need to do some more work to establish exactly what needs to be done, including a visit to HARS at Albion Park to photograph and measure the Catalina down there. As this will involve a trip of at least three days (probably four) from where I sit, I may not be able to do this in the immediate future, but I will get onto it as soon as I can. Keep watching for more thrilling episodes!

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14 hours ago, Admiral Puff said:

OK, I'm back from Canberra and things have progressed.

 

Red Roo have indicated that they will market the conversion if I do the masters, so that's my task for this week ...

 

As things look at present, the set will involve new nacelles to replace the Academy ones; ditto the cowls. The "no cut" alternative doesn't stack up as far as price is concerned. No decision yet on whether we will include engines ... I will need to do some more work to establish exactly what needs to be done, including a visit to HARS at Albion Park to photograph and measure the Catalina down there. As this will involve a trip of at least three days (probably four) from where I sit, I may not be able to do this in the immediate future, but I will get onto it as soon as I can. Keep watching for more thrilling episodes!

Admiral,

 

Sounds like a plan! I have attached a link that gives good views of the cowlings, props/hubs, and oil coolers, which are a very distinctive feature of the PBY- scroll down to see the photos. The second link shows the oil cooler and the early production props- later production used paddle blade props like the ones fitted to R-1830-powered C-47's. The Squadron/Signal In Action and Color Walkaround are both excellent sources of detail photos. Can't wait!

Mike

 

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=169688

 

http://www.skytamer.com/1.2/2003/3504.jpg

 

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Thanks, Mike, those photos are most useful. Just a pity that some of the WIX stuff has been botophucketed ...

 

The next couple of weeks are going to be pretty busy for me, so I probably won't get to HARS before some time in December. From then it should be possible to get the masters done by the end of the year, so hopefully there will be product available in the new year.

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Since I don't have an AC Cat I must ask, which is the most accurate one on the market? 

 

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There is a new Revell one due out soon. From a quick glance at Telford the engine cowlings seemed a bit small.  Whether this was a genuine impression or a bias introduced by this thread I don't know!  It may be the Academy in a new box, perhaps?

 

The Airfix was pretty good, for its day.  Generally it was thought better than the Revell one, although this was partly because the outer wings on the Revell one has an awful droop.  I'd say that the Academy can be guaranteed to be better than either overall, but for the engines.  If I was looking for a Catalina I'd wait for comments on the new Revell one.

 

I must admit having a liking for the 1/144 one from Minicraft.

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2 hours ago, Matave said:

Since I don't have an AC Cat I must ask, which is the most accurate one on the market? 

 

The short answer - there isn't one. The basic shape of both the Airfix and the Revell kits is reasonable, but both are now showing their age - not much detail, such as there is is crude. Both suffer from a surfeit of rivets, especially the Airfix one. The Academy one is newer, and much better in that regard, but it has its problems - the engine cowlings and nacelles, the observation blisters on the -5s, the observers' windows on the earlier variants. As I have remarked above, the "new" Revell looks (from published pictures, at least) to be a re-pop of the Academy kit without the faults having been addressed. We need a new, state of the art PBY in 1:72, and I would be more than happy if either Airfix or Revell of Germany were to give us one! With  bit of clever planning it could cover the field from the PBY-1 to the -6A/PB2B-2.

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1 hour ago, Admiral Puff said:

The short answer - there isn't one. The basic shape of both the Airfix and the Revell kits is reasonable, but both are now showing their age - not much detail, such as there is is crude. Both suffer from a surfeit of rivets, especially the Airfix one. The Academy one is newer, and much better in that regard, but it has its problems - the engine cowlings and nacelles, the observation blisters on the -5s, the observers' windows on the earlier variants. As I have remarked above, the "new" Revell looks (from published pictures, at least) to be a re-pop of the Academy kit without the faults having been addressed. We need a new, state of the art PBY in 1:72, and I would be more than happy if either Airfix or Revell of Germany were to give us one! With  bit of clever planning it could cover the field from the PBY-1 to the -6A/PB2B-2.

For what it's worth, I looked at the cowlings in my Esci and Italeri C-47 kits and they look pretty good and are real close to the ones in the old Revell PBY-5A cowlings in diameter, which are a lot more accurate in dimension than the anemic Academy ones; the C-47 nacelle fairings are different, though, so not usable for a PBY.

Mike

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On 11/13/2018 at 9:33 PM, Graham Boak said:

There is a new Revell one due out soon. From a quick glance at Telford the engine cowlings seemed a bit small.  Whether this was a genuine impression or a bias introduced by this thread I don't know!  It may be the Academy in a new box, perhaps?...

Just saw it announced on Aviation Megastore as Revell (Ex Academy), so... https://www.aviationmegastore.com//?action=prodinfo&parent_id=&art=158774

 

/Finn

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