Troffa Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 I think Tony.t nailed it a few posts back- the dots look pretty regular, so maybe a paint stick or something tamped over one of the fasteners or panel edge. It's a lovely jet. The FAA Museum was pretty enjoyable yesterday, and if you are ever over here Antii I'd be happy to be your guide. It's really worth a visit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony.t Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) On 17 December 2018 at 5:25 PM, ziggyfoos said: In the VF-143 color photo I posted on the first page the nose gear/door looks red to me, was there a red option? It's possible the edge red colour was extended inwards as a matter of expediency, though probably not regulation, and it looks more like a bronze red or the brick red colour (lead?) used on ship's hulls below and around the waterline. I have no reliable info on this - you know infinitely more! Tony Edited December 29, 2018 by tony.t usual faffing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyfoos Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 11/20/2018 at 8:40 AM, ziggyfoos said: I hadn't planned on doing the full data/stencil markings with the panel numbers since others have already covered the original style in both scales (Furball in 1/48 and Zotz in 1/32). I know Cam also does a 1/32 stencil sheet but w/o panel numbers. But I have thought of doing the other common style in 1/32 that was pretty common (open stencil/sprayed on style, likes shown below). But it's a lot of work and not sure if I'll get around to it. Well I changed my mind as usual, but was right in saying it was a lot of work. Over the holiday break I finished a new sheet specifically covering the painted on stencil type data I mentioned in that Nov post, will be new AOA sheet #32031. Website isn't updated yet but images are posted on the Facebook page (no FB account required to view) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Hello ziggyfoos, I just visited your website and saw the new decal sets for the Tamiya F-4J. I'm glad you changed your mind and saw the trouble of producing the stencils set. Once again it looks great. The "Red Devils" option looks also very tempting. I thought that the stencil type panel numbers, servicing markings and so on represent a "later style" (1970s) markings. So these are actually for the older aircraft (pre May 1968)? Kind Regards, Antti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Great reference thread, guys! Bookmarked 😉👍 Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyfoos Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 14 hours ago, Antti_K said: I just visited your website and saw the new decal sets for the Tamiya F-4J. I'm glad you changed your mind and saw the trouble of producing the stencils set. Once again it looks great. The "Red Devils" option looks also very tempting. I thought that the stencil type panel numbers, servicing markings and so on represent a "later style" (1970s) markings. So these are actually for the older aircraft (pre May 1968)? From what I can tell they're on airframes that have gone through a rework facility after already being in service previously with their original new McD factory data (that is the type Zotz did in 1/32 and Furball in 1/48). I hope it was/is clear that the painted on stencil type in this latest release will not be appropriate for every F-4 scheme, just like the McD type previously mentioned from Zotz/Furball wouldn't either (those only be appropriate for new airframes from the factory). Then others, like the VF-143 examples earlier in the thread, have a different type. The famous "check references". That Red Devils sheet has an early F-4J from 1969 as one option but that one would've still had the original McD airframe data; but come 1972, the Lancer's "old" F-4J for example had the open stencil type data (also WD-14 did too for those with the old Fox One sheet). The stencil type was definitely in use by at least as early as 1966 on F-4Bs, there's probably earlier examples but here is clear one from late 1966 or early 1967: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Finally finished this beast, happy with the results. More in RFI. Thanks for all of the help and advice, it's much appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Great job Troffa🙂 Your Phantom looks simply great! Mine is still waiting for decals...and now I'm (once again) more tempted with the Marines version🤣 Well, I might should get mine ready right after my current Il-28R project. Cheers, Antti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Thanks for all of your help and encouragement Antii, I look forward to seeing your Marine Phantom complete- Semper Fi ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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