Tony Whittingham Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Hello All, I was wondering if there are any significant differences in dimensions between the F-16 and the F2? I have a Hasegawa f-2b kit that I am using as a pattern to potentially convert a 1/32 Hasegawa F-16. Are there any drawings for the F-2 on the net? TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I understand that the F2 is considerably bigger. 25% bigger wing, bigger tail, wider nose, about the same length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Here are the seperate stats from wiki first is the F-16c. Next up the F2a. Overall Length is about 1’6” shorter on the F-16. Wingspan is 3’10 shorter on the F-16. The F-16 is actually taller overall by 7”. And Wing area is bigger by 7 square meters on the F2 compared to the F-16. What all that breaks down to in percentages is probably pretty close to the 25% graham quoted. Hope this helps you or anyone else. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoran Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 There is almost nothing common between the two aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tony Whittingham said: I was wondering if there are any significant differences in dimensions between the F-16 and the F2? How talk Russian - "It is better to see once": Resource: http://www.wikiwand.com/ru/Mitsubishi_F-2 Also on this topic have top views images F-2 & F-16 (models?): https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/mitsubishi-f2-fighter-displays-jdam-capability.320263/ 4 hours ago, Tony Whittingham said: Are there any drawings for the F-2 on the net? Yes, on the net have drawings the F-2 in article "F-2 - heir Zero" from "Aviation & Time" (next on text - "A&T") magazine: Resource: http://www.rpk-models.ru/product_info.php?products_id=3325 Drawings from "A&T": loaded on this site: http://www.razlib.ru/transport_i_aviacija/aviacija_i_vremja_2009_06/p9.php But I don't know nothing about quality and accuracy this drawing! 1 hour ago, Sonoran said: There is almost nothing common between the two aircraft On a Paralay was mini hollywar about "New aircraft F-2 or modernization F-16": http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1036&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=19bb5aa76f8e760f779e3a53c51a2149&start=30 Yes, consensus was "F-2 new aircraft" But I would regard the F-2 as an aircraft based on an improved design project of the F-16 in which some of the flaws in the F-16 aerodynamics were corrected and new composite materials were applied. B.R. Serge Edited October 31, 2018 by Aardvark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 As above... Consider it like Hornet and Super Hornet... Looking similar, but actually something else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoran Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Aardvark said: Yes, consensus was "F-2 new aircraft" No consensus required. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. The F-2 has only a superficial resemblance to the F-16, and aside from stemming from the same basic design philosophy, shares virtually nothing in common with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sonoran said: No consensus required. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. The F-2 has only a superficial resemblance to the F-16, and aside from stemming from the same basic design philosophy, shares virtually nothing in common with it. It depends on which side to look! 🤔 Because when, for example, some “experts” talk about the Sukhoi Su-9 (1946) always claim that it is a copy of Messerschmitt Me-262, although there is nothing in common with the engine nacelle, (or MiG-15 copy Ta-183, or I-270 copy Me-263, or Concord & Tupolev Tu-144 calling on West "Concordski", e.t.c, e.t.c yeppp...) but when write about the F-2 - developed by Americans , based on the American F-16, with the same American engine as the F-16, with similar section fuselage ..... then write that this is a new plane! 😁 Therefore, there is nothing surprising in. such a dispute about F-16 and F-2. B.R. Serge Edited October 31, 2018 by Aardvark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dot Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I guess that you could do it if you are into serious scratch building but as has been said, there aren't many similarities apart from the basic shape. Your best reference would be the Modelart Profile book on the F-2 that also includes plans andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 It may well have no (or very few) common parts in the airframe, but the engine is the same and thus there appears (unsurprisingly) to be a very similarly shaped central/rear fuselage and intake. I make no comment about the undercarriage or canopy, though I suspect many internal cockpit differences. Is the ejector seat the same? When it comes to using parts from an F-16 model to make those parts of an F-2, it may well be that such superficial similarities are more important than true engineering differences. As to the accuracy of the drawing, I strongly suspect that the F-2 wing is not the simple plank shown, with no twist and little camber. I suspect that modelling this accurately, not just in planview, will be the most difficult part of any conversion, if the data is available.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight_Flyer Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Would think a fair amount of work is required as the F-2 is a larger aircraft. However, it seems a 1/32 Revell F-16 was converted... found this on the net https://designer.home.xs4all.nl/models/F2-32/f2-32.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, Graham Boak said: It may well have no (or very few) common parts in the airframe, but the engine is the same and thus there appears (unsurprisingly) to be a very similarly shaped central/rear fuselage and intake. I make no comment about the undercarriage or canopy, though I suspect many internal cockpit differences. What is the problem? 🤔 On the 72nd scale, the F-2 makes Hasegawa, the most good F-16 is made by Tamiya and with some reservations Revell. Can someone make a comparison photo to unbuild the F-2 Hasegawa and the F-16 Tamiya or Revell? I can not help with this issue. Because I still do not have F-2 in the collection.😲 I turned it in my hands for a long time and did not buy it! I then thought: "Why do I need a Japanese copy of the F-16?" 😁😁😁 Now, I think that all the same then it was necessary to buy F-2.😭 B.R. Serge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 1/48 Hasegawa F-2A and Tamiya F-16C Block 25 The Hasegawa F-2 is IMHO their best 1/48 jet kit. Nearly as good as the Tamiya F-15 Edited November 1, 2018 by Calum 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomppa B Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 When the YF-16 was turned over to the Air Force Configuration Control Committee it became longer, the size of its wings increased, got a couple of tons of electronics, more hard-points and was in many ways quite a different beast. From a pure day fighter it was turned into a very successful multi-role combat aircraft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whittingham Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Thanks to all for the assistance. I will use the copy of the Hasegawa F-2B I have to make the changes required to the 1/32 F-16A to get to the F-2A. By the way, Wikipedia drawings are at variance with the F-2B kit, and I suggest avoiding their use as a dimensional reference. TW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dot Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 You're a brave man. Best of luck and please post some pictures when you've done it As i said before, the Model Art Profile book is your best reference along with the internet of course Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.C.Acikgoz Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I did it few years a go, before Hasegawa kits released… here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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