nheather Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Have you seen that there is a Kickstarter being run by Element Games for airbrushes specially designed for miniture modellers. As far as I can tell they look like standard H&S Evolution and Infinity brushes in a different colour scheme and at inflated prices. Also just being presented in 0.4mm nozzle which seems odd if they are spefically aimed at painting 28mm figures. What would make an airbrush specifically suitable for miniature painting - I can’t think of anything. Kickstarter Link Cheers, Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergant-san Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 From looking at the pictures it looks like custom trigger design, custom lettering and custom paint cup cap. Possible custom tapered needle. Not 100% sure if it is worth the extra over the standard H&S airbrushes.. just my 2p.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheather Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, sergant-san said: From looking at the pictures it looks like custom trigger design, custom lettering and custom paint cup cap. Possible custom tapered needle. Not 100% sure if it is worth the extra over the standard H&S airbrushes.. just my 2p.. Yes those were my thoughts too. It mentions the Infinity has an aluminium body which I think is different to the standard CRPlus so maybe lighter if that is your thing. But it doesn't say that about the Evolution, nor does it say that either of them are chrome plated. That makes the Kickstarter Evolution (£166) practically the same as the standard Evolution (£100). And I still don't get what makes them more suited to miniature modelling - especially as it is only available as a 0.4mm nozzle. Cheers, Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergant-san Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 0.4mm is OK for miniatures: base coating and highlights.. you are not painting the eyes with it anyway. It just less prone to dry-needle with some of the acrylics. Vallejo whites still dry like mad on the tip and inside the nozzle even with flow improver.. Scale75 and MIgAmmo are joy to use though.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheather Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, sergant-san said: 0.4mm is OK for miniatures: base coating and highlights.. you are not painting the eyes with it anyway. It just less prone to dry-needle with some of the acrylics. Vallejo whites still dry like mad on the tip and inside the nozzle even with flow improver.. Scale75 and MIgAmmo are joy to use though.. Agreed but if that is all you are doing you could pick up practically any 0.35/0.4 airbrush out there - including the existing H&S Evolution - I don't see why you would need an airbrush that specialises in miniature modelling or what that specialism means come to that. Cheers, Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 IIRC the standard Infinity has a brass body with chrome coating... They're not exactly heavy, and the drag of any hose will easily outweigh any weight savings They do look lovely, but then so did my original Infinities when I got them. They're looking a bit shabby now, and even the CRPlus hasn't got any chrome in the cup anymore. I'm not sure how a 0.4mm needle can be customised to work better for figure painting, so I'll keep my gob shut on that score. Aesthetically, they're very nice, although without the crown my needles wouldn't last long, and with the two-prong crown I usually use on mine, I doubt that the spray is affected negatively by turbulence, but who am I to know this? All in all, a big from me, although I do like the look of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergant-san Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I have to agree, they look good. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Hmm, I'd give the new trigger and needle a go when they're available. Re the progressive taper needle, it may be voodoo but my Sotar has one of these and the control is phenomenal , reacting to the tiniest movement predictably. I used it for my 1/72 FW 190 and it was way easier to get tiny mottles and freehand camo than my Infinity using a 0.2mm needle set up and the same paint, so who knows? Mind you new the paint cup lid has a CoP logo, surely this means your painting will improve, that and wearing a cool beanie hat, these are the important things most of you have missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nheather Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) I’ve not seen anything which says what is different about the needle just that it is mysteriously special. I’m guessing that it as a dual or progressive taper like you see on some Badger models. Good point about the beanie hat, that must be where I am going wrong, off it eBay to buy one. 😀 Cheers, Nigel Edited October 27, 2018 by nheather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/27/2018 at 2:33 PM, nheather said: I’ve not seen anything which says what is different about the needle just that it is mysteriously special. I’m guessing that it as a dual or progressive taper like you see on some Badger models. Good point about the beanie hat, that must be where I am going wrong, off it eBay to buy one. 😀 Cheers, Nigel No beanie, no skill, ask any teenager...BTW my Sotar is one of the Badgers with said dual/progressive taper needles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbyrockett Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The only thing a double needle taper will do is make it a bit less prone to being bent. The angle of the portion of the needle that protrudes from the nozzle actually doesn't matter all that much for spraying. I've tried a dozen different grinds in the same brush. The angle within the nozzle controls how quickly your paint flow opens up. So, if you want a lot of control with less needle tip protruding, you use a shallow angle inside with a more blunt angle to the outside. Downside is, this makes the edge of the blunt angle very close the the point the needle seals off the nozzle...often actually receding slightly into the nozzle front...and voila you now get a little paint splatter any time you first press for air since it's holding a tiny amount between the nozzle tip and the needle after the point at which the seal is made. Sotars are notorious for doing exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbyrockett Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I will add, I'm in the process of developing a needle myself. I think you'll hear of it eventually, It's nearly impossible to permanently bend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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