Orion Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Dear Britmodellers, There is a bilingual, non profit book, in the make with the title "All vehicles of the Royal Netherlands Navy since 1945" 400 pages filled with pics and some text in English and Dutch. The authors are a retired Marine and a retired Army NCO. I was kindly requested to find some answers regarding the attached two pictures. Is there any Britmodeller around that can give: Type of vehicle Brand/manufacturer Some technical information Any response is very much appreciated. Highest Regards, Orion (Dirk) The Netherlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 The crane is known as a jumbo crane in british service,not sure of a kit of it exists though,but the small tug looks like the type used by the fleet air arm and available from f4 models via hannants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles81 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) The second one looks like an update or variation on the Clark AT tractor (see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Clark_AT_ground_equipment_tractor_-_Williamsport,_KS,_USA_-_panoramio_(13).jpg) which was used widely by the RN and RAN FAA from WWII through into the 50s. eg http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/Sea-Fury-WM490/Sea_Fury_WM490?full=1 The Dutch one in your photo seems to be a four wheeler variant though but it might by the angle. I would say its a ClarkAT F Model from the 1950s. Note this seems to have been in production into the 1970s so expect some minor variations from photos on the net. This link shows some of the many variations of the ClarkAT: https://hiveminer.com/Tags/clarkat Edited October 20, 2018 by Biggles81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles81 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, fatalbert said: The crane is known as a jumbo crane in british service,not sure of a kit of it exists though,but the small tug looks like the type used by the fleet air arm and available from f4 models via hannants. The F4 models ClarkAT is a 3 wheeler Model B, Dirk's photo looks like a model F four wheeler. Edited October 20, 2018 by Biggles81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Biggles81 said: The F4 models ClarkAT is a 3 wheeler Model B, Dirk's photo looks like a model F four wheeler. Just goes to show how observant I am lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles81 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, fatalbert said: Just goes to show how observant I am lol To be fair I had done a lot of work to identify the F4 Models version as Type B a while back. This is the first time I had even noticed that there was a later type, makes you wonder what the C,D and E types looked like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Dear fellow Britmodellers, Thanks for the response regarding my questions. I have to admit, that I am confused by the tow tractor in the picture. The back wheel is clear, but the front: Two wheels connected to each other, or also two separated front wheels. The F4 model does this have four or three wheels in the front? I did put down "Jumbo"for the deck crane. Many thanks for your shared knowledge on this excellent form. Regards, Dirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles81 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) I think you will find in the F Type shown In your photo has the two front wheels spread wider and the front squared off, whereas the earlier B model has the two front wheels mounted close to each like a castor wheel. This gallery shows the difference in the two models: You may find this useful too as it has all the Type F specs: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-Clark-equipment-co-Clarkat-towing-tractors-original-sales-literature-/302888663134?nma=true&si=kMhxlWWirFwGBEM4JxHGxNJOTxE%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Edited October 20, 2018 by Biggles81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Hello Biggles 81, Thanks for your contribution. The problem is solved with your brochure. 4 wheels for the Royal Netherlands Navy and no "castor Wheels". Highest Regards, Orion (Dirk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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