Harry_the_Spider Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I was wondering whether to get a Revell Victor as they are dirt cheap. I accept that there are some accuracy issues with the intakes and that the interior detail is somewhat basic, but as long as I end up with a VSH (Victor Shaped Object) I don’t really mind. However, I’m not interested if it is going to be a fit and filler nightmare, so a bit of real world feedback from someone who has done an OOB build would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. HTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 As someone who attempted it recently, the fit is diabolitical, a lot of sanding will be needed, and the canopy fit is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayprit Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, Harry_the_Spider said: I was wondering whether to get a Revell Victor as they are dirt cheap. I accept that there are some accuracy issues with the intakes and that the interior detail is somewhat basic, but as long as I end up with a VSH (Victor Shaped Object) I don’t really mind. However, I’m not interested if it is going to be a fit and filler nightmare, so a bit of real world feedback from someone who has done an OOB build would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. HTS Whether its good or bad isn't the issue, if you have the time and patience to put into it, you will get a superb model as can be seen from the many, many superb builds posted on this site...……………..here a couple built from this site to be going on with(their is kit progress to be found on Britmodeller) https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234957606-172-matchbox-hp-victor-k2/ https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235002485-revellmatxhbox-victor-is-it-that-bad/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnulrYUiUEA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_the_Spider Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Quote Whether its good or bad isn't the issue It is. I've done a shed load of old kits recently and I fancy one that will go together reasonably well, even if it isn't 100% accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayprit Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Harry_the_Spider said: It is. I've done a shed load of old kits recently and I fancy one that will go together reasonably well, even if it isn't 100% accurate. Then, I am afraid, this kit is not for you...………………….wait for the Airfix kit to come down in price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_the_Spider Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Thanks 😉 Maybe i'll consider it if I feel masochistic when I've a break from my latest batch of Filler Queens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 All kits are buildable it's if the modeller wants to put the time and effort into it. I'm the 'not' type now as I don't find that part enjoyable anymore.Must be an age thing, as I think I've got better things to do than fight a build nowadays 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whittingham Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Hello Harry, I built one using a resin conversion for the intakes. It’s hard work, especially around the nose, and many of the fine details are missing. The only reason I haven’t bought the airfix kit is the presence of my existing build which I am loath to bin. Good luck! TW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It seems that the original Matchbox versions have come down in price dramatically since the release of the Airfix kit. They may be somewhat better re fit as often moulds deteriorate over time and at least some of the fit issues of Revell boxings may be due to premature mould release. I think the first Revell boxings from some 20 years ago suffered from being stuffed into insufficient-sized boxes, contributing to distorted parts. The latest box is lareger however, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_the_Spider Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 Ah.… Sod It! It's only £15. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Newsome Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Harry_the_Spider said: Ah.… Sod It! It's only £15. That's the spirit!!!! 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) It was poor fitting in the 80s when I built one. By the time it fits, 50% of the surface detail is history. For me it's firmly in the "not worth my time" category now. Edited October 13, 2018 by Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qn30jEkPz7 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Thanks for asking the question @Harry_the_Spider as I’d been having similar musings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_the_Spider Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 Done. Button Pushed. Quote Thanks for asking the question @Harry_the_Spider as I’d been having similar musings You can take the plunge with me... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Revell-1-72-Handley-Page-Victor-K-Mk-2-04326/323096931857?epid=2255340266&hash=item4b3a13ee11:g:maUAAOSwlwRakRmY:rk:2:pf:0 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britman Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I built one of the Matchbox kits some thirty (!) Years ago and although it certainly didn't build itself, I ended up with a very presentable Victor. Whith such a large price difference between the Airfix and Matchbox /Revell ii is well worth doing I think. In hind sight , I would separate the guide fairings from the top wing and fit them to the lower wing fairings and clean up the joint before joining the wings together. The other item I gave extra attention was the wind screen, taking care to fair it in carefully so as to look part of the airframe ( careful sanding and toothpaste ) . Good luck. Keith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 It's a canvas. What you make of it is up to you. The difference is about £50 and a lot of modelling enjoyment. Yer pays yer money and takes yer chance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Interesting discussion: I'd rather spend £15 on a kit and get hours of modelling than shell out £50 on something that's finished in a weekend. But it depends on whether you're a modeller or an assembler. Journey or destination in other words. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_the_Spider Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Now... you see... now I've gone and bought this... I have to get a Vulcan too. Edited October 13, 2018 by Harry_the_Spider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Harry_the_Spider said: Now... you see... now I've gone and bought this... I have to get a Vulcan too. You want an early issue Vulcan, the blueprint box. SYAM had 2 in the collectors section of the shop the other week for less than the current distorted release. https://www.southyorkshireaircraftmuseum.org.uk/shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Thompson Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 If you want some inspiration, here's a shed load by the late, lamented Ted Taylor: http://tedtaylor.hobbyvista.com/11-revell-victor/page-11.html Apologies if anyone already posted this and I missed it. Paul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoran Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 If you want something vaguely Victor shaped that no one is going to mistake for a Lancaster or a Spitfire, it’s fine. Otherwise why bother? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoran Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Sabrejet said: Interesting discussion: I'd rather spend £15 on a kit and get hours of modelling than shell out £50 on something that's finished in a weekend. But it depends on whether you're a modeller or an assembler. Journey or destination in other words. I respectfully disagree with your characterization. You’re making a judgement about other people that you have no right to make, nor any basis upon which to make it. That’s the problem with online modeling “discussion” groups like this. You have no idea what my skills are, what my motivations are, nor anything else about me. Edited October 13, 2018 by Sonoran 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stringbag Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, Sonoran said: I respectfully disagree with your characterization. You’re making a judgement about other people that you have no right to make, nor any basis upon which to make it. That’s the problem with online modeling “discussion” groups like this. You have no idea what my skills are, what my motivations are, nor anything else about me. It was a general observation based on Sabrejet's personal preference for a given subject. I don't believe it was directed at you in any way shape or form, neither was it any form of characterization.. As it happens, I totally agree with the point made. Don't get your knickers in a twist for goodness sake, no one is judging you or anyone else for that matter. Chris. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Ted Taylor (God bless him)'s missives on the Victor put me off building my first one (part started) for almost a year. This year I converted one back to a B.2. Not a work of art like others here, but I enjoyed it and was happy with the result (even if others didn't share my pleasure). At the end of the day who are you building for? If you want a competition winner - good luck. If you build for yourself - enjoy the journey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoran Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 hours ago, stringbag said: It was a general observation based on Sabrejet's personal preference for a given subject. I don't believe it was directed at you in any way shape or form, neither was it any form of characterization.. As it happens, I totally agree with the point made. Don't get your knickers in a twist for goodness sake, no one is judging you or anyone else for that matter. Chris. And there’s another indication of the problem with online discussions. I don’t have my knickers in anything even remotely like a twist. I didn’t say he was directing it at me, if you had actually read what I posted. You people astound me. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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