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Thanks for the kind comments guys, I just hope i can do it justice.

 

Looking at photo's on Airliners these bird can get really dirty! Like this one

 

I'm going for somewhere halfway between pristine and '01530' as shown above. So plenty of weathering to do.

 

No time at the workbench for at least a week as it holiday time tomorrow, for a week of Lakeland beauty and hopefully not too much rain!

 

Cheers

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On 6/1/2019 at 4:47 AM, whiskey said:

Any updates Rich? I didn't ask before but what decals are those that you're using?

Hi Zach,

 

Thanks for the interest.

 

Not much to report at the moment as I've lost my mojo on this one a bit. :(

 

I've made 2 big mistakes, firstly with the roundel placement and secondly with over zealous use of Mr mark softer which has made the colour run on one of the roundels.

After seeing that the colour run on one of the decals, which i thought i might be able to fix. I then realized to my horror that they were too far forward by about 5mm. It should be sitting on the second vertical panel line. 

 

IMG_1302

 

 

So i have 2 options

 

  1. Pay for a new set of decals (Model Alliance World Air Power Update No 2.) which Hannants has for £17.40. A bit expensive as i only need 2 HAF roundels
  2. Somebody kindly donates them or i swap something for them, hint hint ;) fellow BM'ers

As i said earlier i have started with the decals, all the Model Alliance decals are on and i have started on the plethora of stencils, I am using these...

 

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As you can see there are alot!

 

Anyhow, progress so far...

 

IMG_1300

 

IMG_1299

 

IMG_1301

 

Still lots of decals to apply, roughly 300-400!

 

Hopefully i will either get some roundels donated or i learn to live with my mistake so i can put this one to bed!

 

Thanks for looking! 

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All the s/n of Greek Phantoms

McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom II
Α/Α Αρ. Α/Φ C/Ν Βlock USΑF s/n Πρώην

 

1 01500 4439 54 72-1500
2 01501 4443 54 72-1501
3 01502 4448 54 72-1502
4 01503 4451 54 72-1503
5 01504 4455 54 72-1504
6 01505 4458 54 72-1505
7 01506 4462 54 72-1506
8 01507 4465 54 72-1507
9 01508 4470 55 72-1508
10 01509 4473 55 72-1509
11 01510 4477 55 72-1510
12 01511 4480 55 72-1511
13 01512 4485 55 72-1512
14 01513 4487 55 72-1513
15 01514 4492 55 72-1514
16 01515 4494 55 72-1515
17 01516 4499 55 72-1516
18 01517 4503 55 72-1517
19 01518 4506 55 72-1518
20 01519 4510 55 72-1519
21 01520 4514 55 72-1520
22 01521 4517 55 72-1521
23 01522 4521 55 72-1522
24 01523 4524 55 72-1523
25 01524 4526 55 72-1524
26 01525 4532 56 72-1525
27 01526 4535 56 72-1526
28 01527 4539 56 72-1527
29 01528 4543 56 72-1528
30 01529 4547 56 72-1529
31 01530 4552 56 72-1530
32 01531 4555 56 72-1531
33 01532 4560 56 72-1532
34 01533 4564 57 72-1533
35 01534 4569 57 72-1534
36 01535 4573 57 72-1535
37 41618 4827 60 74-1618
38 41619 4833 60 74-1619
39 71743 4995 65 77-1743
40 71744 4998 65 77-1744
41 71745 5001 65 77-1745
42 71746 5004 65 77-1746
43 71747 5007 65 77-1747
44 71748 5010 65 77-1748
45 71749 5013 65 77-1749
46 71750 5016 65 77-1750
47 71751 5019 66 77-1751
48 71752 5022 66 77-1752
49 71753 5026 66 77-1753
50 71754 5028 66 77-1754
51 71755 5031 66 77-1755
52 71756 5033 66 77-1756
53 71757 5035 66 77-1757
54 71758 5037 66 77-1758
55 71759 5039 66 77-1759
56 71760 5042 66 77-1760
57 67345 3200 33 67-0345 67345
58 67350 3212 33 67-0350 67350
59 67377 3269 33 67-0377 67377
60 67381 3277 33 67-0381 67381
61 68318 3345 37 68-0318 68318
62 68361 3427 37 68-0361 68361
63 68363 3431 37 68-0363 68363
64 68381 3463 38 68-0381 68381
65 68393 3484 38 68-0393 68393
66 68394 3487 38 68-0394 68394
67 68402 3502 38 68-0402 68402
68 68405 3508 38 68-0405 68405
69 68408 3513 38 68-0408 68408
70 68412 3519 39 68-0412 68412
71 68424 3541 39 68-0424 68424
72 68426 3546 39 68-0426 68426
73 68432 3558 39 68-0432 68432
74 68438 3569 39 68-0438 68438
75 68440 3573 39 68-0440 68440
76 68442 3578 39 68-0442 68442
77 68444 3581 39 68-0444 68444
78 68445 3585 39 68-0445 68445
79 68480 3650 40 68-0480 68480
80 68481 3651 40 68-0481 68481
81 68496 3678 41 68-0496 68496
82 68506 3693 41 68-0506 68506
83 68515 3707 41 68-0515 68515
84 68517 3710 41 68-0517 68517

McDonnell Douglas RF-4E Phantom II
Α/Α Αρ. Α/Φ c/n Βlock USΑF s/n Πρώην
1 70357 5049 66 77-0357
2 70358 5050 66 77-0358
3 71761 5029 66 77-1761
4 71762 5036 66 77-1762
5 71763 5041 66 77-1763
6 71764 5045 66 77-1764
7 71765 5046 66 77-1765
8 71766 5048 66 77-1766
9 7449 3872 43 69-7449 35+02
10 7450 3883 43 69-7450 35+03
11 7454 3927 43 69-7454 35+07
12 7460 4007 44 69-7460 35+13
13 7464 4040 45 69-7464 35+17
14 7471 4060 45 69-7471 35+24
15 7476 4074 45 69-7476 35+29
16 7482 4092 46 69-7482 35+35
17 7486 4099 46 69-7486 35+39
18 7487 4101 46 69-7487 35+40
19 7491 4109 46 69-7491 35+44
20 7493 4114 46 69-7493 35+46
21 7495 4117 46 69-7495 35+48
22 7496 4118 46 69-7496 35+49
23 7498 4122 46 69-7498 35+51
24 7499 4124 46 69-7499 35+52
25 7500 4127 46 69-7500 35+53
26 7506 4138 46 69-7506 35+59
27 7507 4140 46 69-7507 35+60
28 7508 4141 46 69-7508 35+61
29 7511 4148 47 69-7511 35+64
30 7519 4164 47 69-7519 35+72
31 7529 4187 47 69-7529 35+82
32 7531 4191 47 69-7531 35+84
33 7533 4195 47 69-7533 35+86
34 7534 4197 47 69-7534 35+87
35 7535 4120 47 69-7535 35+88

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Aircraft

USA - Air Force 
McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantom II

Reg.: 68-0424

MSN: 3541

Code: HF

Location & Date

Tampa - MacDill AFB (MCF / KMCF) 
Florida, USA - June 1991

Caption

Assigned to 113 TFS / 181 TFG at Hulman Field located in Terre Haute, Indiana. Sold to Greek AF as 68-424. A quick glance & you would think you were looking at an F-4G Wild Weasel.

Photographer

Frank C. Duarte Jr.

 8.9K   USA

 

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I want to ask why sometimes the photo are not visible. If fotographer payed  tthe General Air Stuff of Greece to photo the aircrafts it ' s OK . But if no I believe as citizen who payed taxes to buy the Greek Goverment the aircrafts I have a privilege on them. . Ask me someone please.

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You may be a citizen of Greece, and you may pay taxes so that the government can buy the pretty airyplanes, but you aren't the photographer who put the photos onto that site, nor do you own the site (or pay the bills associated with it), so that gives you no rights over those photos whatsoever.

 

It's the photographer and the website owner, not the Greek government, that control who can link those photos. Because of international copyright laws.

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14 hours ago, Rich F said:

So i have 2 options

 

  1. Pay for a new set of decals (Model Alliance World Air Power Update No 2.) which Hannants has for £17.40. A bit expensive as i only need 2 HAF roundels
  2. Somebody kindly donates them or i swap something for them, hint hint ;) fellow BM'ers.

 

3rd option - mask and paint them. 2 colours, round masks. Easy as..

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1 hour ago, Rob G said:

 

3rd option - mask and paint them. 2 colours, round masks. Easy as..

I agree. In 1/48 it's relatively easy to paint roundels.

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Dear Rob we cannot solve the problem here but I dont agree because the photographer can takes photos and with piracy way out of an airport and  when he want to sell the photos say to us for rights, he must give to us approvments that he took licence and paid the licence. So if someone takes fotos my face  or your face he can sell them in his site with rights Is this correct? The site is only for him to sell the photos, it commerce the photos. Everything which commerced the seller must approve the licence given to him. Is that always doing?

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And the other is that in these fotos we can see who takes them. We dont say that they took by me or you.  

Cheers

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10 hours ago, Rob G said:

 

3rd option - mask and paint them. 2 colours, round masks. Easy as..

 

8 hours ago, Shalako said:

I agree. In 1/48 it's relatively easy to paint roundels.

Good idea, cheers guys. Just need to work out how to cut the smallest circle as my compass cutter wont cut that small. 

 

21 hours ago, nikos said:

The 71743 haw seperated front glass

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Hi Nikos, thanks for the input.

 

Am i right in thinking your talking about the framing around the windscreen?

 

I was aware that some ex-USAF machines had 'frameless' windscreens, but I don't think 71743 was one of them. see link below...

 

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/6286879

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I love all those stencils! Unlike most other modellers (I suspect) I actually enjoy a myriad of stencils. I'm curious about the markings, though - why is Ajax depicted with a bow? He is more generally regarded as a spearman. The character in the Iliad with amazing bow prowess is Ajax's half-brother Teucer. Such things we modellers ponder...

 

Back to the model, this is an amazing work you have here. And you put the fuselage roundel right where I would have put it - are you sure it should be moved aft? I don't have a lot of photos of Greek Phantoms, but the roundel seems to be right where you have it.

 

This one has the Ajax logo on the tail, though I'm not sure if it's the same aircraft you're depicting as I can't read the tail code. Note the roundel position:

 

Hellenic F-4 Ajax

 

And these seem to have the roundel right about where you placed it.

 

Phantom-II-1.jpg?resize=850,567

 

Cheers,

Bill

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Thanks Bill, you may have saved my bacon ;)

 

I need to look into this further as when i checked the position of the roundel i was looking at a 338 sqn jet, so maybe your right.

 

Here '01525' looks about the same as mine...

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Greece-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4E-AUP-Phantom-II/1412156/L

 

I haven't found a good closeup photo of 71743 and i have a feeling it maybe retired now as 339 sqn has been disbanded.

 

Regarding the stencils, it is a lot work but i think it will pay off in the end.

 

Although I'm thinking of giving some of them a thin coat of base colour to tone them down once I'm done as looking at the real thing (see link above) some of the stencilling is very faint and in some cases almost worn away.

 

Thanks again.

 

Rich

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2 hours ago, Rich F said:

Good idea, cheers guys. Just need to work out how to cut the smallest circle as my compass cutter won't cut that small. 

 

 

 

Brass or aluminium tube of the correct diameter, sharpened to make a punch. Note that sharpening the inside of the tube gives you a slightly larger diameter than sharpening the outside of the tube... That can make all the difference between 'nope, not gonna work' and 'yep, close enough'.  Lining it up can be tricky, but tape is cheap.

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Yes Rich F  the 71743 has the classic F-4E screen with 3 pieces seperated. The 68424 has different windscreen.

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Well I've finally finished this one, managed to grab a few days to get this one off the workbench :)

 

Not sure if I've overdone the weathering and I'm not 100% happy with it but these birds do get really dirty!

 

Anyhow it done now, on my next project.

 

I'll upload some better pic in the RFI section over the next few days.

 

IMG_E3198 IMG_E3213 IMG_E3209 IMG_E3203 IMG_E3200

 

Thanks for looking ;) 

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