Thomas from ARC Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Hello all, next question regarding the Meteor. Today I received the FR. 9 kit. One of the marking options suggests Slate Grey (Hu 31) and MSG 637 (Hu 165) for top and PRU Blue (Hu 230) for lower surface. Did this scheme actually exist? I am a noob on the Meteor. The other scheme is DG 241 and DSG 638 on top and PRU Blue, which is known to me. Thanks for support, Thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Yes it was a PR scheme in the early 50s, as used (for example) on the Canberra PR 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 The scheme existed, even if was short lived. There's some more info on the use of this scheme on Metero FR.9s in this thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas from ARC Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 Great! Many thanks! Are the Humbrol equivalents good matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilfergylee Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) If you grab-hold of Flightcraft's book Gloster Meteor in British Service by Martin Derry and Neil Robinson, there is a colour drawing of WX965 in this very colour scheme. Part of the caption reads "...WX965 was one of the few FR.9s to be finished in the High Altitude Short Range Day Fighter Scheme, comprising Light Slate Grey and Medium Sea Grey upper surfaces with PRU Blue under surfaces to Pattern No.2, i.e. high up the fuselage sides." If I recall, the only other aircraft I knew-of that used this scheme were some Canberra PR.3s. Another aircraft that hardly falls into the category of High Altitude Shore Range Day Fighter! Neil Edited October 4, 2018 by neilfergylee The inevitable typo... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Yes its Light Slate Grey not Slate Grey I did my Canberra in this scheme using xtracrylix paints which look good to me. There is no Humbrol Light Slate Grey, if you want enamel then Xtracolor do it. Julien 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 hours ago, neilfergylee said: If I recall, the only other aircraft I knew-of that used this scheme were some Canberra PR.3s. Another aircraft that hardly falls into the category of High Altitude Shore Range Day Fighter! Neil And B2s from 10 Sqn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) The aircraft in the middle is the kit subject. When you look at them, there were quite a few FR9s in this scheme. The famous profile of a 208 Aircraft with orange nacelles was a mis interpretation of this scheme Edited October 4, 2018 by Dave Fleming 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Vampires carried it as well, FB9s and possibly some Hornets iirc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 31 is closest to light slate grey in the Humbrol range, DarkSlate Grey is 224 for comparison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 We've got Light Slate Grey in enamel too as our users would expect - ACRN05 Light Slate Grey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: We've got Light Slate Grey in enamel too as our users would expect - ACRN05 Light Slate Grey Sorry always forget you have a range of enamels. Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilfergylee Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: Vampires carried it as well, FB9s and possibly some Hornets iirc Yes, of course! The Frog Hornet kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) The scheme was not a PR specific scheme and PR types of the era did not use this but had a specific scheme with MSG upper surfaces and PRU Blue unders to Pattern No.2 The MSG/LSG/PRU Blue scheme was the result of an attempt at standardising colour schemes across the various RAF Commands and as such was introduced in 1951 for 2 cathegories: "Jet Propelled Bombers" (at that time only the Canberra B.2) and "Day Fighters - Short Range". The scheme was used for a brief time and within this timeframe was applied to a number of Vampire FB.9 and Meteor FR.9, and maybe to a few Hornets. The fact that the scheme followed Pattern No.2 while the later DG/DSG scheme followed Pattern No.1 makes it easier to determine if a Meteor is in this scheme even in B/W pictures Edited October 4, 2018 by Giorgio N 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Julien said: And B1s from 10 Sqn B1s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Meatbox8 said: B1s ? Should read B2's as in Canberra B.2s Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas from ARC Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 Many thanks for all the information! Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just for fun, how many schemes in this shot? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 11 hours ago, neilfergylee said: Yes, of course! The Frog Hornet kit... No, the Frog Hornet kit offered the wartime High Altitude Day Fighter Scheme of Medium Sea Grey over PRU Blue, and the postwar Day Intruder Scheme of Dark Sea Grey and Dark Green over PRU Blue. I believe this predated the scheme involving Light Slate Grey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMP2 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Forgive my ignorance, but if the Slate Grey/Green/PRU was a short lived scheme, what was the norm or later offering for the Meteor FR.9s, more specifically the II (AC) aircraft if thats makes a difference? Edited October 10, 2018 by RMP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) On 10/10/2018 at 11:16 PM, RMP2 said: Forgive my ignorance, but if the Slate Grey/Green/PRU was a short lived scheme, what was the norm or later offering for the Meteor FR.9s, more specifically the II (AC) aircraft if thats makes a difference? The most common scheme for II (AC) was Dark Green/Dark Sea Grey uppers with PRU Blue lowers with a low demarcation between the upper and lower surfaces. There were also aircraft in overall Aluminium (paint) although I don’t think II had any with their squadron bars. Edited October 11, 2018 by Dave Fleming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMP2 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 12 hours ago, Dave Fleming said: The most common scheme for II (AC) was Dark Green/Dark Sea Grey uppers with PRU Blue lowers with a low demarcation between the upper and lower surfaces. There were also aircraft in overall Aluminium (paint) although I don’t think II had any with their squadron bars. Lovely thank you. Shame it wasnt LAG underneath, but you cant have it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 59 minutes ago, RMP2 said: Lovely thank you. Shame it wasnt LAG underneath, but you cant have it all. You have to go to an F8 for one of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMP2 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Dave Fleming said: You have to go to an F8 for one of those! Aye, they do look nice, but no good for II(AC). Annoyingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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