Gloster Meteor, which ejection seat?

[Thomas from ARC]

Hello,

 

which ejection seat is used in the Gloster Meteor F8 and FR 9? Pavla offers a MB Mk.2B and Mk.2F, which are both called out for the use in the Meteor.

http://www.pavlamodels.cz/katalogy/detail.php?k=seats&c=S48025&styl=styly.css

http://www.pavlamodels.cz/katalogy/detail.php?k=seats&c=S48022&styl=styly.css

 

So I am unsure, which one to order.The seat in the kits resemble the Mk.2B.

 

Many thanks,

 

Thomas

 

 

[Selwyn]

According to  Martin Baker ,The Meteor was fitted with both Mk. 1E and Mk. 2E seats.

 

Selwyn

[Julien]

The Meteor I am helping to restore was a Mk.8 converted to a U.16 and that had a MK.2E seat in it.

 

[canberra kid]

As Julien says, my info has the MK.8 as having a 2E I can't say for the FR.9 Interestingly in the AP it refers to the 'Red Handle' for the face screen firing handle. 

John

[Thomas from ARC]

Thanks guys!

 

So it seems, the correct seat is the one Pavla calls Mk.2B then.

 

Thomas

[Julien]

On ‎02‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 19:17, Thomas from ARC said:

Thanks guys!

 

So it seems, the correct seat is the one Pavla calls Mk.2B then.

 

Thomas

Neither of them are right, but the 2F looks closer. The B has the wrong head box and back pad. The F has the wring head rest but you can shape that, the pads are right as is the head box.

 

Julien

[Thomas from ARC]

4 hours ago, Julien said:

Neither of them are right, but the 2F looks closer. The B has the wrong head box and back pad. The F has the wring head rest but you can shape that, the pads are right as is the head box.

 

Julien

Julien,

 

many thanks! Then the so-called 2F and some work....

 

Thomas

[Retired Bob]

On 02/10/2018 at 19:13, canberra kid said:

As Julien says, my info has the MK.8 as having a 2E I can't say for the FR.9 Interestingly in the AP it refers to the 'Red Handle' for the face screen firing handle. 

Hi John, early ejection seats had red firing handles, not sure when they changed to yellow and black ones.

Interesting that there is no mention of a seat pan handle, when they were introduced they were called secondary firing handles as the face screen handle was always taught to be the one to pull unless there was problem in doing so.

Modern ejection seats do not have a face screen or firing handle anymore and they have a lot more than the 3 cartridges used in these early Mk.2 seats.

 

[tempestfan]

20 hours ago, Retired Bob said:

Hi John, early ejection seats had red firing handles, not sure when they changed to yellow and black ones.

Interesting that there is no mention of a seat pan handle, when they were introduced they were called secondary firing handles as the face screen handle was always taught to be the one to pull unless there was problem in doing so.

Modern ejection seats do not have a face screen or firing handle anymore and they have a lot more than the 3 cartridges used in these early Mk.2 seats.

 

The earliest MB seats did not have seat pan handles AFAIK - the Martin Baker site has one Mk 2 with extending knee guards and single loop box handle without it, but they also show later Mk 2s with fixed knee guards, double loop head box handle and seat pan handle - all waspy. IIRC the seat pan handles were introduced due to pilots' problems to reach the upper one in high G conditions.