Magua87 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hi, team. Figured I'd share some progress on a kit I've been working on for a wee while. This is an old kit my father gave me after he upgraded to the Italeri / MPM Hudson. I'm hoping to have this wrapped up in a few months (I'm not a fast builder). Progress to data includes removing the raised detailing... ... and a bit of scratch building. I moved the wall behind the cockpit back to where it's meant to be, added some boxes, and busied up the walls. The rear door has been re-profiled to match my target aircraft. The propellors were lumps of misshapen plastic. They had a good sanding down and the spinners were rounded. No photos, but I've also built up the elevators by filling in the gaps, and scribed these as one piece. Airfix has them moulded as individual elevators, which is incorrect. The reason I'm doing all this is to represent a Hudson at my local museum in Auckland, MOTAT. Photo is mine. I'll visit again soon to get some better shots. Shout out to @fightersweep for helping me with this kit. I lost one of the nose transparencies and he kindly sent a spare set across the world for me! Next step will probably be to join the fuselage. I think I'll practice with some liquid mask on all those windows before I commit to cement and styrene. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Looking great so far on a kit that is certainly not a straight forward build. Glad to help with the transparencies. That's what Britmodeller is all about! The museum also looks great. I would love to visit one day. The Keith Park statue looks amazing (it is Keith Park I take it?)...we should have one here in Trafalgar Square...and maybe one of my other Kiwi hero, Al Deere! Steve Edited September 24, 2018 by fightersweep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Great start on what must be a very challenging model. Certainly a very old one! As Steve says, I have found the BM community immensely helpful since joining in earnest this year. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I love watching a classic Airfix build! Martian 👽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, fightersweep said: Looking great so far on a kit that is certainly not a straight forward build. Glad to help with the transparencies. That's what Britmodeller is all about! The museum also looks great. I would love to visit one day. The Keith Park statue looks amazing (it is Keith Park I take it?)...we should have one here in Trafalgar Square...and maybe one of my other Kiwi hero, Al Deere! Steve There is a statue of Park not far from Trafalgar Square - about 5 minutes’ walk away along Pall Mall, in Wellington Place. In fact I think it might even be the same carving as that one in MOTAT - not sure which is a copy of which! It looks a very similar pose. Edited September 24, 2018 by Ex-FAAWAFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Great work so far on the old Hudson. It is great to see the older kits havin the extra detailing added. Keep up the good work. All the best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: There is a statue of Park not far from Trafalgar Square - about 5 minutes’ walk away along Pall Mall, in Wellington Place. In fact I think it might even be the same carving as that one in MOTAT - not sure which is a copy of which! It looks a very similar pose. Thanks for the info! It's been years since I visited the smoke, but now you mention it, I do recall reading about a statue of Park in the capital....and quite right too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Welcome, all. 23 hours ago, fightersweep said: The Keith Park statue looks amazing (it is Keith Park I take it?) 11 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: In fact I think it might even be the same carving as that one in MOTAT - not sure which is a copy of which! It looks a very similar pose. That's him. I think the MOTAT example is a copy, but I can't remember where I read that. I've grabbed some photos of the elevators. I had to use a lot of plastic card and super glue on the underside to get them level before they could be scribed. The top side wasn't anywhere near as bad, but still took a lot of sanding. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Never built a Hudson, so I'll tag along if I may. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Afternoon, all. Life has got in the way of modelling lately, but I've managed to crack into it this week. First up, if I'm going to replace the windscreen with a vac-formed copy, I was going to need more detail. Here we have the seat as it comes in the kit. And here we see its transformation with plastic card. Progress. And closure of the fuselage. The next step is to work my way around the fuselage with modelling glue and superglue, closing and filling all gaps. I'll also need to get out the Milliput to close the gap left by the rear turret, as my chosen aircraft does not have a turret. Wish me luck. I'll be back with updates soon and a discussion around my paint options and choices. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Here is some genuine images of a Hudson flown by 9th Squadron in the Solomon's. These were taken by the radio operator who was a family friend of mine. I'm not sure if the lower right is a Hudson it looks different. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Greg Law said: Those are great photos. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 Superglue and Milliput progress. Piece by piece. The Milliput is currently drying and I hope to attack it tomorrow with a file. I had a bit of an issue with the windows fogging up. I guess some fumes got into the fuselage? I have managed to sneak a cotton bud in there to clean it up via the opening for the dome in the roof. I'll give them another wipe down before I close up the fuselage with the dome, but that will be some time off. Now, colours. RNZAF aircraft wore a variety of colours depending on who the aircraft were purchased from and at what point in the war they flew. See here and here. The main differences I can see being the manufacturer in the USA (Lockheed - unknown as far as I can see, and Curtis), who they were producing for (some RNZAF aircraft were directed to NZ from British orders), the time period they were producing for (pre- and during-lend lease), and the RNZAF's application of NZ produced paints in country. I've simply eye balled the colour scheme on the aircraft a MOTAT. It seems to be different from the P-40 they have in place, which I believe has more of the Du Pont colours for a Curtis aircraft. So, with that out of the way I'm using Tamiya XF-21 Sky for the undersides, Gunze H72 Dark Earth for the brown on the top side, and I'm not sure about the green. My usual go to for the RAF's green is Gunze's H330 Dark Green, but I think I'm going to go for a lighter shade here. Maybe Gunze's 309 Green. We'll see. I'm a little way off painting at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 The filling, filing, and sanding continues. I inserted a small plastic card plug into the opening in the bomb bay, which is presumably provided for a stand. I'm done with the super glue and have been lashing on coats of Tamiya surface primer with a brush. The tail has been added and I've started blending it in. A mixture of Squadron putty for the big gaps (top side) and Perfect Plastic Putty for the wing joins on the underside where sanding is a pain. Next step will be to test my sanding with a quick coat of paint to look for any defects. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Somehow I'd missed this one. However, all caught up now, and she's looking good! Always nice to see another Airfix oldie getting some tlc! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 This one slipped under my radar as well. I’ve got a 1980’s release unbuilt in the pile somewhere (and a Revell/MPM one too). Those photos are great, especially the ones of the cockpit and starboard cowling. You're certainly beating this golden oldie into submission. If it helps I provided some walkaround pix of the one in Hendon. Regards Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 8:17 PM, Max Headroom said: If it helps I provided some walkaround pix of the one in Hendon. Regards Trevor Cheers, Trevor. Those shots around the elevators and the bottom of the fuselage are very helpful. I think the Airfix kit is a bit boxy in the latter area. The ailerons are on. The gaps are huge, both between the wing and aileron (see the light shining through) and between the upper and lower halves of the wings. I think I'm going to build these up with plastic card and super glue and then I'll scribe around the edges when I'm done. Compare the Airfix ailerons with the Classic Airframes Hudson here. I think I'm done with the fuselage sanding. I'm hoping to get some paint onto the kit this weekend to see what needs touching up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 3:31 AM, Greg Law said: Here is some genuine images of a Hudson flown by 9th Squadron in the Solomon's. These were taken by the radio operator who was a family friend of mine. I'm not sure if the lower right is a Hudson it looks different. P Lower right looks like an early Anson. The green on MOTAT’s Hudson looks to me like a faded Australian Foliage Green, but that could be down to the lighting, my browser and any number of factors. Is there any indication as to whether, when and how the aeroplane was restored that could shed some light on the paints used? I wonder if the dorsal turret was removed to save weight and drag for the ASW role. (I don’t recall ever seeing a Hudson fitted with the “stickleback” radar antennae before. Fascinating!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampartiger Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think that picture on the lower right shows the cabin of an Avro Anson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 @Magua87 Two things I didn’t mention in my list were that the door hatch on the Airfix model is for a civilian Lockheed 14. It should be square along the top, not rounded. Also the bomb bay engraving is incorrect and shows it to be very weedy. It’s much longer to the extent that at the rear there are notches in the corners to stop the doors fouling with the ground when open. Trevor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 Small progress. I decided to throw some paint at the kit to see how things are shaping up. The ailerons aren't looking too bad. They'll need a brushing of Mr Surfacer or Tamiya Fine Surface Primer and some fine grades of sand paper. I might fill those gaps inboard of the ailerons and re-scribe the whole of the aileron. You can see the marks on the wing from my metal files. I've been using those to sand the super glue flush and to try and thin the trailing section of the wing to match the profile of the ailerons. The fuselage looks alright. It'll need a few touch ups and a bit of super glue where the very front seam has popped open. The engine cowlings will need a bit of attention too, just to smooth everything out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 12:59 AM, stever219 said: Is there any indication as to whether, when and how the aeroplane was restored that could shed some light on the paints used? I wonder if the dorsal turret was removed to save weight and drag for the ASW role. (I don’t recall ever seeing a Hudson fitted with the “stickleback” radar antennae before. Fascinating!) I've realised that I forgot to share the airframe history for my Hudson. I'm building NZ2031. There's a bit of a history of the aircraft here. It's a little out of date as the aircraft is now inside the "new" hangar with its wings attached. The aircraft lost its turret when it was converted into a C-63 Hudson Transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I am impressed with your progress on this build. I built one as a commission job a few years ago and it fought me every step of the way. More power to your scalpel! Martian 👽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 6:38 AM, Kampartiger said: I think that picture on the lower right shows the cabin of an Avro Anson. I was just getting to post the same observation- we're either both pretty smart or clueless! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Very fine modelling on an Airfix “classic”! Moveable control surfaces are always a bit of a pain to fix... Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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