Gekko_1 Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 More Vegemite in action................... HUD painting. Here's a small detail that would have been missed if it weren't for those awesome photo finds! (the 36375 Light Ghost Gray on the beginning of the intake trunking. Next, we begin some of the more interesting stuff.................weathering! Richard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Looking good Richard. Along the theme of extra patches of light ghost grey - the front portions of the glove pylons on some of these had 36375 there too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingdutchman Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Love your attention to detail, same goes for your research about the colours to get it right. Vegemite, I had to google that to learn it's more like Marmite which I once ate in Australia thinking it was the same as a Dutch spread we have.....but after one bit I knew it was completely different!!! 😨 Will follow with interest! Evert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Tony Oliver said: Looking good Richard. Along the theme of extra patches of light ghost grey - the front portions of the glove pylons on some of these had 36375 there too. Thanks Tony! Hadn't spotted that one! Will get that done today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 7 hours ago, Flyingdutchman said: Love your attention to detail, same goes for your research about the colours to get it right. Vegemite, I had to google that to learn it's more like Marmite which I once ate in Australia thinking it was the same as a Dutch spread we have.....but after one bit I knew it was completely different!!! 😨 Will follow with interest! Evert Thanks, Evert. Yeah, Vegemite would definitely be one of those things that is an acquired taste. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 OK...............thanks to Tony's eagle eye I was able to get the FS 36495 onto the glove pylons with the help of Vegemite, of course! 😎 Fin tips done........... Panel line washes have begun too. I do mine slightly different to most people. I use drying retarder and Vallejo Model Wash in a combination of two to one. Once the panel line has been brushed with the mix any excess is wiped away with a brush moistened with water. No smelly chemicals and you have a bit of time to manipulate the mix before it dries. I also use this technique to simulate the tattered sea salt look of USN/Marine subjects too. I'll demonstrate this later in the build. To do the red cap area of the drop tank I used Vallejo red ink and using capillary action filled the recess. Works perfectly! Removing the Vegemite from the fan nose revealed the white perfectly protected! YAY for Vegemite! 🎉 I've got six days to get this Tomcat finished for the local model comp here in South Australia, over the weekend of the 13th and 14th October!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😲 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskey Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Man those are clean lines from the vegemite. You said it comes off with water or is that peeled off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, whiskey said: Man those are clean lines from the vegemite. You said it comes off with water or is that peeled off? The Vegemite just dissolves in warm water using a soft brush. Very simple and works perfectly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodiebear Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 gonna have to try that Vegemite masking, assume the same for marmite ? (just branding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 1:19 AM, brodiebear said: gonna have to try that Vegemite masking, assume the same for marmite ? (just branding) Yes, as far as I know, both are basically the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 Well, I didn't get the Tomcat finished for the comp, too much left to do. But, the build goes on! Here's some progress of the subassemblies. I discovered the hard way that the decals, now quite old, would come apart once soaked in water. Luckily this only happened to the port side skull and bones decal. I was able to re-assemble it on the fin. After that it was time to apply some Micro Liquid Decal Film to the rest of the decals. Luckily this did the trick. Also did some oil paint rendering on the Pheonix pallet. Wings ready for further weathering. I have to figure out how to do the wing sweep oil and grime marks somehow. Any ideas? Here's the two drop tanks, one in Light Gull Grey, the other FS.36495. And the remaining Pheonix pallets. All of these still need some more oil paint rendering/weathering. Here's the underside of the main body. Intake trunking still not glued in place. A close-up of some of the oil paint rendering/weathering. Cheers Richard. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 Time to paint the coroguard paint on the leading edge................... Based on the only really good colour image I have been able to find of this Tomcat I decided to lighten FS. 36375 by 50% white to match the contrast seen in the photo. So I sprayed the colour, no problem, then began to take off the masking. Port fin went fine, then...................................... Oh! 🤣 Luckily I have a lot of patience. I kept my cool and just accepted my fate. To be fair the decals are roughly 35 years old. I think what happened is that the decal hadn't adhered to the surface properly and pulling up the Tamiya tape was enough force to bring up the whole thing. Anyway, luckily I was able to find a replacement sheet on eBay. So once that arrives I can carefully sand down the surface, repaint, re-gloss, and try again. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingdutchman Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I've had this too once in my final stages of the build. It was the last time I put any tape over decals.... But I think you'll be able to repair this. You can always reprint and spray instead of using the decal. Evert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Remember doing this one in 1:72 from the old Italeri kit. Great as ever to watch your work, Richard. Ian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 2:22 PM, Gekko_1 said: So I sprayed the colour, no problem, then began to take off the masking. Port fin went fine, then...................................... Oh! 🤣 Luckily I have a lot of patience. I kept my cool and just accepted my fate. To be fair the decals are roughly 35 years old. I think what happened is that the decal hadn't adhered to the surface properly and pulling up the Tamiya tape was enough force to bring up the whole thing. Anyway, luckily I was able to find a replacement sheet on eBay. So once that arrives I can carefully sand down the surface, repaint, re-gloss, and try again. G'day, Gekko! Awesome work. You should try covering your decals with some stretched piece of Parafilm M and then mask over with tape on the rest of the surface. Once the Parafilm M is carefully burnished over the decal with a toothpick, you can also run your masking tape over it without any danger of ripping it off afterwards. HTH Cheers, Unc2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I never put tape over decals for this reason. Would the vegimite applied over the decal help to prevent This? lovely work so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Apart from your decal disaster this is fantastic work, I love the vegemite idea. All very good stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 4 hours ago, woody37 said: I never put tape over decals for this reason. Would the vegimite applied over the decal help to prevent This? lovely work so far Yes actually, Vegemite would have worked perfectly for this sort of thing. I honestly never thought the decal would pull up as it did. I'm guessing it was mainly because the decal was so old the bonding agent must have weakened over time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelliott523 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 11/3/2018 at 1:29 PM, Gekko_1 said: Wings ready for further weathering. I have to figure out how to do the wing sweep oil and grime marks somehow. Any ideas? In regards to your question about the wing sweep oil and marks, I saw another builder who installed the wings, then took a pencil and drew light marks as he moved the wings fully forward and aft to draw on the paint. Then he took oils and highlighted the areas, when it was finished it looked great and very authentic. I do not remember what site this was on, possibly on a Facebook group for building the Tamiya F-14. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 21/12/2018 at 18:28, Gekko_1 said: Yes actually, Vegemite would have worked perfectly for this sort of thing. I honestly never thought the decal would pull up as it did. I'm guessing it was mainly because the decal was so old the bonding agent must have weakened over time? For me anything but eating vegemite/marmite is better, bad luck with the decal, it can happen no matter how old they are. Impressed with the idea of painting most the components and putting them together at the end, I suppose it only works this well when the fit is as good as this kit, will give it a go on my "pukin dog" Tomcat, and yup I've got the quickboost gun cover. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gekko_1 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 6 hours ago, jelliott523 said: In regards to your question about the wing sweep oil and marks, I saw another builder who installed the wings, then took a pencil and drew light marks as he moved the wings fully forward and aft to draw on the paint. Then he took oils and highlighted the areas, when it was finished it looked great and very authentic. I do not remember what site this was on, possibly on a Facebook group for building the Tamiya F-14. Thanks for that. I may give it a go, or I may just have the wings swept and not worry about it? Not sure yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelliott523 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Gekko_1 said: Thanks for that. I may give it a go, or I may just have the wings swept and not worry about it? Not sure yet. No worries! I'm looking forward to starting my kit after the New Year. Trying to get several others finished up that were started this past year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Bob Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 18 hours ago, jelliott523 said: No worries! I'm looking forward to starting my kit after the New Year. Trying to get several others finished up that were started this past year. I am afraid there are a lot of us in that category. 😀 Bob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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