Taylor Durbon Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 16 hours ago, Hook said: I live in hope for eventual IIIB/D twoseat versions. Modelsvit?????? A beautiful kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 7:55 AM, Taylor Durbon said: Modelsvit?????? A beautiful kit. Rudder shape and rivets on the Modelsvit would make me prefer a SH one. Cheers Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drake122 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Hook said: Rudder shape and rivets on the Modelsvit would make me prefer a SH one. Cheers Andre I recall SH mentioned somewhere on modelforum that 2 seat variants are unlikely at this point. Perhaps after all of the announced 3/5 variants are released... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Hook said: Rudder shape and rivets on the Modelsvit would make me prefer a SH one. What is particularly wrong with rudder shape? I recall clear problems with rudder of MirageIII from RV but looks like Modelsvit did it okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain goat Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Dennis_C said: What is particularly wrong with rudder shape? I recall clear problems with rudder of MirageIII from RV but looks like Modelsvit did it okay. I think he's referring to the first iteration, kit no 72045, which indeed had abovementioned issues. These have been solved in subsequent versions (IIIO, EA, CJ, B). Jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mountain goat said: I think he's referring to the first iteration, kit no 72045, which indeed had abovementioned issues. These have been solved in subsequent versions (IIIO, EA, CJ, B). Thank you! And I assume 72061 (C) is correct as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain goat Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dennis_C said: Thank you! And I assume 72061 (C) is correct as well. Indeed, forgot about that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiampieroSilvestri Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, drake122 said: I recall SH mentioned somewhere on modelforum that 2 seat variants are unlikely at this point. Perhaps after all of the announced 3/5 variants are released... With all the derivatives there are 128 different versions of the Mirage III/V single seater! I don't build in 1/72 scale but if Special hobby only releases a third of them it will take a looooong time since they will make a two seater. Saluti Giampiero Edited October 9, 2022 by GiampieroSilvestri 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 17 hours ago, Mountain goat said: I think he's referring to the first iteration, kit no 72045, which indeed had abovementioned issues. These have been solved in subsequent versions (IIIO, EA, CJ, B). I recall that Modelsvit changed the wing sweep but I'm not sure about the fin & rudder. Anyway. Several weeks ago I did an overlay of the profiles (posted on a French forulm) from the Modelvsit and Special Hobby instructions. The reason is I believe that the views in the instructions are based on the CAD model. They match well except in three areas: - fin leading edge sweep - angle of the windscreen - height of the intake lip I've received the SH Friday and overlayed the fin to the Modelsvit part and indeed the SH fin leading edge is more swept (I didn't measure... yet). It's hardly noticeable unless you focus on this area but it seems to confirm my hypothesis. Fin height is different also. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisz Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 41 minutes ago, Laurent said: I recall that Modelsvit changed the wing sweep but I'm not sure about the fin & rudder. Anyway. Several weeks ago I did an overlay of the profiles (posted on a French forulm) from the Modelvsit and Special Hobby instructions. The reason is I believe that the views in the instructions are based on the CAD model. They match well except in three areas: - fin leading edge sweep - angle of the windscreen - height of the intake lip I've received the SH Friday and overlayed the fin to the Modelsvit part and indeed the SH fin leading edge is more swept (I didn't measure... yet). It's hardly noticeable unless you focus on this area but it seems to confirm my hypothesis. Fin height is different also. Is it possible that both is correct? I mean the two company might mesure different aircafts from different batches or something like this. Based on soviet technics that had some differences dou to different factories and series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Borisz said: Is it possible that both is correct? I mean the two company might mesure different aircafts from different batches or something like this. Based on soviet technics that had some differences dou to different factories and series. I'm no aerospace engineer but I doubt an engineer would mess around airfoils geometry lightly. I did a quick SH vs MV vs Dassault drawing (Mirage IIIR or RD I don't remember). SH vs Dassault matches, MV vs Dassault doesn't. I'm at work so I can't upload anything. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 SH vs IIIR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 Two dedicated sets - ref. Q72401 - Mirage IIIC Wheels Source: https://www.specialhobby.eu/nase-produkce/mirage-iiic-wheels-1-72-for-special-hobby-kit.html - ref. Q72402 - Mirage IIIC Atar 9B Engine Nozzle Source: https://www.specialhobby.eu/nase-produkce/mirage-iiic-atar-9b-engine-nozzle-1-72-for-special-hobby-kit.html V.P. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 18 hours ago, Laurent said: SH vs IIIR Pics not showing - is it me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Hook said: Pics not showing - is it me? Me neither. I have to click on it, wait for the no image icon appears, then click on that and it loads the picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Now in stock at the Big H. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Mine's on its way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieGolf2009 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 07/10/2022 at 12:42, MiG-Mech said: IIIS Yasss! 😎 My reaction exactly! 😁 The presence of the Falcons and their hardpoints was a dead giveaway. For the 5BA, SH seems to be clearly going with the LAU-32 and tanks on the wings, and a couple of Matra SAMP 25 (retarded?) on the centerline. It should not be particularly difficult to get a pair of AIM-9J/P, Mk.82HD Snakeyes or BL755s somewhere else, if you desire a whole different loadout on your Belgian Mirage. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 17:37, Enzo Matrix said: Now in stock at the Big H. Good evening all Be careful with the pictures of the Mirage clear parts on Hannant's they are not furnished on the IIICJ box ... Best regards Patrice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 As long as everything is there for me to make an Adl'A Mirage IIIC, I'll be a happy bunny! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, TEMPESTMK5 said: Be careful with the pictures of the Mirage clear parts on Hannant's they are not furnished on the IIICJ box ... Good point! I believe that the sprue that is shown covers every transparency requirement for the whole range. The bottom left section is what is provided in this kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Wez said: As long as everything is there for me to make an Adl'A Mirage IIIC, I'll be a happy bunny! I think you'll be a 🐰. I certainly am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 hours ago, Wez said: As long as everything is there for me to make an Adl'A Mirage IIIC, I'll be a happy bunny! 11 hours ago, Enzo Matrix said: I think you'll be a 🐰. I certainly am. Good morning An Adl'A Mirage IIIC is a Very good idea and I am looking forward for your builds next year in the MB DA GB Best Regards Patrice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis pacheco Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 🤩 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Well, mine arrived today and as @Enzo Matrix predicted, I am a verreee happpeee bunnneee! I'm mightily impressed with this kit, the surface detail is a great improvement on previous Special Hobby kits, also I pleased I don't have to devote any thought on how to fill the divots on the surface. A great kit, I shall be buying many more! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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