Enzo the Magnificent Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Wez said: I've pre-ordered one. If I'm honest, I'm a bit disappointed it's the IIIC first, it's always the chuffing IIIC! I know the IIIC was used in combat by both Israel and South Africa but the IIIE and 5 based versions also saw combat and offer many more varied colour schemes and thus potential sales however, SH have promised these versions in the future so I guess I'll have to be patient... ...not something I'm known for! To those banging on about the Modelsvit kit, I can buy two SH kits for slightly more than the price of one Modelsvit and as I want to do a bucket load of Mirages buying the SH kit in preference is a no-brainer for me, providing it's to the same quality as the SMB2, Meteor and SF.260. I have the Modelsvit IIIB, it looks a nice in the box and I plan to build it for the French Fancy 2 GB but, it is expensive which prohibits buying more and it features the habit of depicting rivets as divots, subtle ones admittedly but they're not there on the real aircraft (the friction drag would be horrendous)! I dislike these intently and they'll have to go (a matter I've been giving considerable thought to). I'm looking forward to this kit and I will be getting more IIIC's! For me, 2021 is likely to be The Year Of The Mirage. In the Anzac GB I plan a IIIO (Modelsvit). For the Africa GB I plan two SAAF aircraft: a IIIC and a Cheetah D. I was hoping the Modelsvit IIIC would be released in time for that GB but it looks unlikely so I'm going to go with an RV kit. Maybe a Swiss IIIR in the Unarmed GB and then possibly a couple of choices for French Fancy. I'm hoping that the SH kits are of a similar standard to their Mirage F1, which is one of my favourite kits. It would be really nice to get the SH IIIC out in time for the Africa GB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Good morning Enzo Don't worry I think that the Modelsvit IIIC should be available in time for the Africa Gb I have preordered 2 from a french Shop .. If SH hadn't wasted their time with the Me 109 I think we would already see a lot of Mirage III builds .. Best Regards Patrice 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Wez said: I've pre-ordered one. If I'm honest, I'm a bit disappointed it's the IIIC first, it's always the chuffing IIIC! I know the IIIC was used in combat by both Israel and South Africa but the IIIE and 5 based versions also saw combat and offer many more varied colour schemes and thus potential sales I agree completely, and why is it always about the combat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 A couple of IIIC's on backorder with Hannants. I see several more in my future........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, Smudge said: A couple of IIIC's on backorder with Hannants. I want to build a IIICZ in the Africa GB which starts in a month so I've hedged my bets and put both a Special Hobby and Modelsvit one on backorder... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Enzo Matrix said: I want to build a IIICZ in the Africa GB which starts in a month so I've hedged my bets and put both a Special Hobby and Modelsvit one on backorder... I admire your commitment to the Mirage III I've put my name down for the Africa GB. Hope your Mirage arrives in time. See you there............... (not doing a Mirage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Smudge said: I admire your commitment to the Mirage III Hope your Mirage arrives in time. See you there............... If neither of them arrives in time, I have an RV Aircraft kit as backup. The Mighty Spreadsheet is indicating that 2021 may well be the year of the Mirage III. IIICZ and Cheetah D for the africa GB. IIIO for the Anzac GB. IIIC and IIIE for the French Fancy GB and possibly a IIIR in the Unarmed GB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Enzo Matrix said: If neither of them arrives in time, I have an RV Aircraft kit as backup. Sounds like you have all the bases covered Got to love a Mirage, in all it's various and wonderful forms. I doff my hat to you, Sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Torn Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 i have been waiting for the Special Hobby Mirage. Am a bit dissapointed that it's a Mirage IIIC and not a IIIE, but it's ok, i want to build another israeli mirage and a south african one as well, i just don't think i'll preoprder one at hannants as i live in Spain and postage ( and taxes) might be too much. Meanwhile, i bought a Modelsvit MIrage IIIEA/BR whihc looks really good and comes with masks and photoetched parts, and that i think i will paint as a Venezuelan air force Mirage III E, i also bought a couple of the new High Planes models IAI Finger and IAI Dagger, which of course will be painted in Argentine liveries. I don't know why they keep offering Mirages with argentina falklands war scheme when Mirages didn't take part in the war but the Daggers did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ed Torn said: i have been waiting for the Special Hobby Mirage. Am a bit dissapointed that it's a Mirage IIIC and not a IIIE, but it's ok Slogging my way through an AML IIIC at the moment, I would just like a kit where, for instance, the tail cone actually fits the main fuselage and parts like the cockpit, exhaust pipe and main wheel bay can be fitted without Dremeling the plastic within a nanometer of its life. Bring on any and all SH delta Mirages! Cheers, Andre Edited January 28, 2021 by Hook 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieGolf2009 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Ed Torn said: I don't know why they keep offering Mirages with argentina falklands war scheme when Mirages didn't take part in the war but the Daggers did... Yes they did, where have you heard that? 🤔 They were pulled back to Tandil AB after the first skirmishes, due to their limitations and to protect Buenos Aires from the fear of Vulcan raids. https://www.argentina.gob.ar/noticias/mirage-breve-resena-historica-del-gran-delta-argentino Osprey's Duel #81 Sea Harrier FRS.1 vs Mirage III/Dagger - South Atlantic 1982 is also a good read about this. Edited January 29, 2021 by CharlieGolf2009 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Torn Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I can't remember where i read it... i think i read it on this book i bought by Duke Hawkins, but what i remember was that the argentines were afraid that Chile might attack them so they kept the mirages III ready for an attack from Chile, and that's also because the MIrage III have a shorter range than MIrage 5. The aircraft involved in the engagement against Sea Harriers were IAI Daggers, at least from the youtube argentine videos. They said Daggers, not mirage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieGolf2009 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ed Torn said: I can't remember where i read it... i think i read it on this book i bought by Duke Hawkins, but what i remember was that the argentines were afraid that Chile might attack them so they kept the mirages III ready for an attack from Chile, and that's also because the MIrage III have a shorter range than MIrage 5. The aircraft involved in the engagement against Sea Harriers were IAI Daggers, at least from the youtube argentine videos. They said Daggers, not mirage... If you have the time - and opportunity - to read "Osprey Duel 81 - Sea Harrier FRS.1 vs. Mirage III/Dagger South Atlantic 1982", by Douglas C. Dildy and Pablo Calcaterra, you'll see what I mean. Edited February 3, 2021 by CharlieGolf2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 On 03/02/2021 at 11:27, Ed Torn said: I can't remember where i read it... i think i read it on this book i bought by Duke Hawkins, but what i remember was that the argentines were afraid that Chile might attack them so they kept the mirages III ready for an attack from Chile, and that's also because the MIrage III have a shorter range than MIrage 5. The aircraft involved in the engagement against Sea Harriers were IAI Daggers, at least from the youtube argentine videos. They said Daggers, not mirage... According to Falklands the Air War Mirage IIIEA I-015 and 1-019 were both lost within five minutes of each other on 1st May 1982 these were R550 Magic equipped aircraft from the later batch of IIIEA delivered and were used for Skyhawk escort, the earlier MATRA R530 only capable aircraft were retained for air defence on the mainland. I-015 was shot down by a Sidewinder fired from SHAR XZ452 flown by Flt Lt Barton RAF, this was the first kill of the war, the pilot ejected safely, I-019 was damaged by a Sidewinder from the other SHAR (XZ453 flown by Lt Thomas RN), the pilot flew it to Stanley but was shot down by his own AAA. Pilot survived and was back in Beunos Aires within days describing how his Mirage had collided with a SHAR (which didn't happen). After the 1st May losses the Mirages were withdrawn to protect Beunos Aires against potential Vulcan attack. although they did escort Hercules to within sight of the Islands, they were later withdrawn to the Argentine/Chilean border due to fears from attacks from that direction. They did fly missions later during the war in June when the risk of Vulcan attacks had receded. I don't doubt that the You Tube video talks about the Daggers, they flew the majority of missions but I would suggest, it doesn't provide the full picture as according to Falklands - the Air War, FAA official statistics credit the Mirages with 45 operational missions. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Torn Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 7:23 PM, Wez said: According to Falklands the Air War Mirage IIIEA I-015 and 1-019 were both lost within five minutes of each other on 1st May 1982 these were R550 Magic equipped aircraft from the later batch of IIIEA delivered and were used for Skyhawk escort, the earlier MATRA R530 only capable aircraft were retained for air defence on the mainland. I-015 was shot down by a Sidewinder fired from SHAR XZ452 flown by Flt Lt Barton RAF, this was the first kill of the war, the pilot ejected safely, I-019 was damaged by a Sidewinder from the other SHAR (XZ453 flown by Lt Thomas RN), the pilot flew it to Stanley but was shot down by his own AAA. Pilot survived and was back in Beunos Aires within days describing how his Mirage had collided with a SHAR (which didn't happen). After the 1st May losses the Mirages were withdrawn to protect Beunos Aires against potential Vulcan attack. although they did escort Hercules to within sight of the Islands, they were later withdrawn to the Argentine/Chilean border due to fears from attacks from that direction. They did fly missions later during the war in June when the risk of Vulcan attacks had receded. I don't doubt that the You Tube video talks about the Daggers, they flew the majority of missions but I would suggest, it doesn't provide the full picture as according to Falklands - the Air War, FAA official statistics credit the Mirages with 45 operational missions. Thanks :) it's always good to know BTW do we know when will the kit be released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Ed Torn said: BTW do we know when will the kit be released? Not a clue I'm afraid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiff guy Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Any news on this yet ??? Regards Glenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drake122 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 8:56 PM, cardiff guy said: Any news on this yet ??? Regards Glenn. I asked a Special Hobby rep on a czech modelling forum, however my question was ignored. The general consensus seems to be that Mirage family is coming sometime in 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Koktavý Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I think general consensus seems to be a funktion of general consensus (now)+1 year which is updated in a year period 😁 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 IIRC in one of their newsletters the very first kit from this family was supposed to be released this year but I'm pretty sure it's overdue already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Koktavý Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Well, if I look on the first page, some 3D renders were available in 2018. I din´t see any boxart so far. I also remember we were waiting for Mirage F1 for a long time too. Fortunatelly, there is now Modelsvit available, so we don´t need wait 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piotr Mikolajski Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, David Koktavý said: Well, if I look on the first page, some 3D renders were available in 2018. Yep, September 2018: https://www.specialhobby.net/2018/09/special-hobby-pripravuje-modely-mirage.html In January 2021 they wrote: https://www.specialhobby.info/2021/01/news-from-special-hobby-012021.html Another highly attractive model will no doubt be the first of the 1/72 Mirage III/5 family At first sight no timeline set but at the end of the newsletter there is quite clear info: We hope and believe that all those things I have mentioned above and which are going to be available during the first half of 2021 will be interesting to you Obviously everyone is behind schedule this year, but as not a single boxart has appeared so far, I would expect the first Mirage III/5 to be rather early in the spring at the earliest. Edited October 22, 2021 by Piotr Mikolajski Added quote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drake122 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 The might also be waiting because Modelsvit released their Mirage III family first, and mostly everyone who wanted to buy one already got that kit, as it is generally a good build and accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redboost Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 The point is elsewhere, it is all about how and where they outsource some of the moulds. Usually they are working on projects which were not announced, so some other news will come before the M irage is released. Let’s wait and look forward to news, one of them is coming along shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, drake122 said: The might also be waiting because Modelsvit released their Mirage III family first, and mostly everyone who wanted to buy one already got that kit, as it is generally a good build and accurate. I thought the Modelsvit kit to be too pricey (much like all the non-mainstream kits thus far) , so am holding out for Special Hobby’s release. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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