RidgeRunner Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I now have it on back order at the Big H BUT is it a new tool or is it the same one that was released a year or so ago in a different boxing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: I now have it on back order at the Big H BUT is it a new tool or is it the same one that was released a year or so ago in a different boxing? That's THE unanswered question for now. https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235010228-kpaz-central-discussion-questions-answers/&do=findComment&comment=3782969. V.P. Edited August 7, 2020 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vultures1 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 The decal options certainly look good. Eagerly awaiting someone getting hands on plastic to confirm whether it's a new tool ... although I'm not hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrik Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I would not hold my breath expecting new tool. The same question (RV moulds/new tool) had been asked about their previous Fishbed releases. The answer was "new tool". And when the kit was out and it was clear it is from the old RV moulds (possibly cleaned?), the inquiries in the lines "what did you mean by new-tool" were tacitly ignored. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Patrik said: I would not hold my breath expecting new tool. The same question (RV moulds/new tool) had been asked about their previous Fishbed releases. The answer was "new tool". And when the kit was out and it was clear it is from the old RV moulds (possibly cleaned?), the inquiries in the lines "what did you mean by new-tool" were tacitly ignored. I fear that you are correct, Patrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 Re-release in February 2022 - ref. KPM018 - Mikoyan Gurevich Mi-21UM "Mongol-B" Source: https://www.modelarovo.cz/novinky-kovozavody-prostejov-azmodel-na-unor/ V.P. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) Sabrekits boxing - ref. SBK7019 - Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-21U "Mongol-A" Sources: https://shop.sabrekits.cz/11018,cz_mig-21u-mongol-a.html https://www.facebook.com/Sabrekits.cz/posts/pfbid02dawGsn66XozxDabqJfooGCszEHdZe3muzeqnTRapKynkNNUUdyg4Q7J2Yxz7rgBXl https://www.facebook.com/Sabrekits.cz/posts/pfbid013Pv96FD7iXWcigJbnBhHCzyLiZxDrExnGLUQmnCtpguDUnrduTcgo6SLFqtgpMil Quote New on our e-shop, this is a Mongola A cover from Bílek company including the original decal variants of Czech Republic, NDR and USSR supplemented by Finnish and Polish decals from our company. The instruction includes correction of the SOP size for the Czechoslovak variant V.P. Edited August 7, 2022 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 47 minutes ago, Homebee said: Sabrekits boxing - ref. SBK7019 - Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-21U "Mongol-A" Sources: https://shop.sabrekits.cz/11018,cz_mig-21u-mongol-a.html https://www.facebook.com/Sabrekits.cz/posts/pfbid02dawGsn66XozxDabqJfooGCszEHdZe3muzeqnTRapKynkNNUUdyg4Q7J2Yxz7rgBXl V.P. The text from Sabrekits you have quoted mention Bilek as the origin of this kit so I guess this is not a rebox of the Kovozavody/RV kit.. The Bilek kit IIRC included parts for both the U and UM variants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: The text from Sabrekits you have quoted mention Bilek as the origin of this kit so I guess this is not a rebox of the Kovozavody/RV kit.. The Bilek kit IIRC included parts for both the U and UM variants It does, Giorgio, but it is a poor kit compared with the KP. The KP on its own is fine but can be improved. If a Mongol-A is wanted a bit of butchery and Eduard parts can get you there. Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, RidgeRunner said: It does, Giorgio, but it is a poor kit compared with the KP. The KP on its own is fine but can be improved. If a Mongol-A is wanted a bit of butchery and Eduard parts can get you there. Martin Agree with that Martin! The presence on the sprues of parts for all variants though is something that would allow Sabrekits to reissue it for a MiG-21U easily, while the KP kit would require a new fuselage, one more reason for me to think that this is the Bilek kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: Agree with that Martin! The presence on the sprues of parts for all variants though is something that would allow Sabrekits to reissue it for a MiG-21U easily, while the KP kit would require a new fuselage, one more reason for me to think that this is the Bilek kit Agreed, Giorgio. It wouldn’t be my route to getting a Mongol-A, though. I still have the Bilek in my loft and I don’t think it will see the light of day now ;). Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaCee26 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 hours ago, Giorgio N said: The text from Sabrekits you have quoted mention Bilek as the origin of this kit so I guess this is not a rebox of the Kovozavody/RV kit.. The Bilek kit IIRC included parts for both the U and UM variants Hi Gi8orgio & all, In fact Bilek U and UM shares the same fuselage: US/UM afterburner and dorsal spine what is too big for U and too small for US/UM... Unfortunately the same problem with the RV/KP UMs too. Bilek U has both narrow and wide-chord fins and mirrorless rear canopy. Probaly all double-seater MiG-21 kits has too narrow windscreen. RV/KP might be narrowest. So no easy way to get an accurate Mongol. One alternative might be cross-kitting with Eduard PF or PFM depending the variant wanted. At least Bilek markings selection looks interesting (for me). Cheers, AaCee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 5 hours ago, AaCee26 said: So no easy way to get an accurate Mongol. One alternative might be cross-kitting with Eduard PF or PFM depending the variant wanted. At least Bilek markings selection looks interesting (for me). Cheers, AaCee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaCee26 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 14 hours ago, RidgeRunner said: Hi Martin, I didn't remember your beautiful UM. In fact I was thinking to use front fuselage and appropriately modified spine with rest from the suitable Eduard single-seater variant. Maybe I have to have a second look for those various kits. Cheers, AaCee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, AaCee26 said: Hi Martin, I didn't remember your beautiful UM. In fact I was thinking to use front fuselage and appropriately modified spine with rest from the suitable Eduard single-seater variant. Maybe I have to have a second look for those various kits. Cheers, AaCee Thanks mate. The only thing is would do differently is to use the Eduard nosewheel leg. I use the KP and the wheel is slightly too big I my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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