ProfSparks Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Hi All Before I was diverted through a Matchbox Provost, I was headed toward this The masks were (are?) what I was delayed with (for?), but I have struggled through the grammar minefield it's now on the Slab. Yes, it's been a little bit soggy at some point, possibly chewed on by Box Weevils too, but it's canopies area fine specimen for trying out pre-cut masks. The instructions had me spray the interior Aluminium, however, t'Interweb proposed the interior was the body colour due to a large opening, so Polish Khaki it is Now then, Polish Khaki is quite an elusive shade to pin down with regard to production date, application, age, etc etc, so I've gone with Vallejo VA71. ........ Too brown? Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I can't speak for the interior colour but I am keen to see what you make of this kit. Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadas Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Hello! I'm glad that you're building a model of a Polish plane. Here's Karas 1/48 a gallery from the construction of another PZL23B model, scale 1:48 but it may be useful. Exterior painting of the aircraft (Polish users) - Polish Wings 17, Stratus, page 88: Upper and side surfaces: - ... - first half 1938 - FS20122 - 1938 - 1939 - FS30108 Lower surfaces: - FS35450 As for the color of the interior, I've to check and answer later - there are two theories: Polish Khaki or color similar to FS35450 (but more greyish). and so... the interior in Polish Khaki is a good choice, with a high probability the interior looked like in this model the blue/blue-gray or silver color was probably only on the early factory planes Adam Edited September 24, 2018 by Dadas follow-up 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 Hi All Thanks Adam, very useful information. Your Karas builds are well above what I'm aiming for with mine, top jobs! Here's where I'll probably be leaving my interior, just as Heller left it Eduard do a full etch set for this kit ED72223, perhaps I'll tackle that on another one when I see how this canopy comes out. Anyhoo, I've managed to squeeze a couple of moments in The Lab, but all I got done was joining together the rough engine cowling The rough body join (Before and after realising I should have paid more attention to the lower seam location and attacking it with various files and sandpapers) And throwing on some primer Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 Hi All Now we come to the crux of this build, the canopy masking. They're the Montex Mini Mask set for external canopy. The small pieces don't seem to adhere particularly well to the curves, and can be moved out of position quite easily The bigger pieces on the flat surfaces are better They're made from a black plastic tape, a bit like PVC, with a glue that's slightly slimy. They stick ok to curves once pressed down with a cocktail stick I've just noticed how skewed they've become, the pieces look like they deform while fitting, then retract. More experimentation needed. Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Never used pre-fab canopy masks myself but they're looking good. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrzeM Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Good work so far! Heller Karaś is very nice, but already obsolete kit. If you want to build another Karaś someday, try the new IBG product, it is very nice and modern kit, and not expensive. But of course you'll more badly need some fighter to escort you Karaś - try the Arma Hobby PZL P.11c! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Hi All Sorry I'm late, Silly Season is in full swing and I'm contractually obliged to not disappear into The Lab 🚧 However, with the aid of Friends In Low Places, I've managed a couple of brief encounters Two types of tailplane are supplied, enabling the construction of an /A or a /B I'll be making an /A from Force Aerienne Roumaine The wing root join requires a fine application of your filler du jour, but nothing serious. I'll try to sneak a primer on it somehow, but at this rate it'll soon be Christmas Anyhoo, comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) I made one of these in the eighties. It is one of the few planes I still have from that time. I have been wondering why I painted it green. Now I know after seeing your box. The plane is supposed to be a more brown/green colour but much closer to the brown. I wouldn't worry about that other kit it is 1/48 and very detailed. It is a beautiful kit and makes a good reference for you. I have it to be built one day. Edited October 9, 2018 by Greg Law 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 Hi All On 10/9/2018 at 4:21 AM, Greg Law said: I have been wondering why I painted it green. Now I know after seeing your box. The plane is supposed to be a more brown/green colour but much closer to the brown. Hi Greg, yes the box art is slightly misleadingly green, as both the accepted shades of Polish Khaki (early and late) are much more brown with a hint of green. I've managed a quick squirt of that Vallejo RLM04 over white primer Slightly 'lemony'? I'll see how it goes against the JU88 and some blue on. Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Hi All A sudden burst of inactivity allowed me to mask the yellow Squirt on some primer And flash over with some Vallejo VA 71.255 Light Blue RLM65 I was going to do the gondola canopy with the upper surface colour first as it will be seen inside from the top, but opportunity won over accuracy. Unmasking later! Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Hi All Here it is with its' wrappings off Slightly grey-ish, but still a kind of blue (and if it's good enough for Miles, it's good enough for me 🎺) Here it is with the RLM75 JU 88 Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I don't think you need any suggestions, this build is rocking along very nicely as it is. Martian 👽 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Hi All On 10/21/2018 at 11:51 PM, Martian Hale said: I don't think you need any suggestions, this build is rocking along very nicely as it is. Thank-you dear, but it would appear that it should be suggested to me that I RTFM, as we shall soon see... I got the underside all masked off and got some Quasi Polish Khaki in the cockpit Then on with the previously masked canopy And away I went The canopy is a much better fit than this, it's just popped on with Blu Tack However, there was one piece that lifted slightly Masking off, and we have The yellow band looks a bit wonky, but no-one ever looks underneath a model, do they Back to the canopy Not too bad, a couple of pokes with a cocktail stick should see them decent (and some of them are underneath too) Pressing on, I got some wash and dry brush on the engine and IP Most of this will also be hidden. Right, that's everything accounted for, time to got some stickers on and put it all together NNNOOOOOOOO!!! Yes folks, I missed the part that the red, yellow, and lilac tail markings weren't decals, so it's back to the spray box for me Comments and suggestions about looking ahead welcome Cheers Steve 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Good going Steve, especially like the canopy work. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 Hi All Right, where were we? Ah, yes, the stickers. There's quite a surplus of yellowish carrier film So it was sliced as close as I could see And haven't turned out too bad They look quite sturdy, so there's a course of leeches Daco Strong on the cards. Meanwhile, her legs need wheels fitting Cutting along the dotted line The wheels need a touch up where I've held them, but nothing serious. Next time I may get it all together! Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Good recovery with the tail markings and decals look good too. I thought to myself 'How is he going to get those bloody wheels with the axles already in place?' You took a wedge out of the wheels...I think? Good progress, not far now. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I really like the work so far on this hope mine turns out decent. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Hi All On 10/26/2018 at 11:57 AM, Courageous said: I thought to myself 'How is he going to get those bloody wheels with the axles already in place?' You took a wedge out of the wheels...I think? Yes, just a slot I got the lights on by painting the locations on the legs in silver, then while it was still wet, placed the clear parts on and let them dry. No fogging glue! They are oversize, but I didn't relish the prospect of sanding them down when I could hardly see them in the first place. Anyhoo, the internals were fitted in And with the lid on some of it can still be seen. A better build would benefit from a vac-form canopy and an internal PE detail set. I got the nose on, and the exhausts fitted without any wrangling Then before I knew it, ready for a final coat of varnish to seal it all in It might be a while, it might be soon, who knows. Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnl42 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Oh, that's looking quite nice! Definitely has that brutish look of the prototype. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfSparks Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Hi All Got it all done! Thanks to everyone who tagged along, see you on the next one Comments and suggestions welcome Cheers Steve 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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