Procopius Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I was thinking idly about purchasing one of those 1/700 Atlantic Models kits to build a V-Class War Emergency Destroyer, as I've always been interested in the splendid destroyer action culminating in the sinking of the Haguro in 1945. However, I can't afford a 1/350 kit from WEM (I mean, I could, but it would require saving, and patience, and focus, and determination, and I'm a cream puff), and so I was wondering what the 1/700 kits are like. Quite small, I'd imagine? Is it possible to build one without an elaborate PE bending tool or powerful electron microscope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Yo Edward. The 1/700 destroyers are fairly small but it's possible to do a nice job. Bending tools are very much nice-to-haves and not essential. If you own a steel ruler and some sort of razor blade you can do the same thing. The point of the tool is to clamp the part with a hard edge at the bend point so that a razor blade folds the part right at the hard edge. You can do the same with a ruler or even a second modelling knife - I did so until this year. My HMS Hood that I think you gave seen was done with two scalpels and a drill bit for rolling curved parts. What is well worth having though is one or two pairs of decent tweezers (at least one of the pair should be needle-nose) an acupuncture needle for gluing and some empty packaging for pills to put your glue in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: Yo Edward. The 1/700 destroyers are fairly small but it's possible to do a nice job. Thanks, Jamie! Do you know of any WIPs or reviews of one of them so I could get a sense of what the WEM kits look like in that scale and how they go together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugle07 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 There's a review of the WEM S class 1/700 in the ship review section of this lovely site. I know it's not the V class, but it'll show the quality of the resin. There's also a couple of reviews of the Atlantic 1/350 kits including the S class HMS Scorpion, again I know it's nor the same scale but show the kit well. Geoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 I wish there was a photo of one of these babies next to like, a biro or a cotton bud or something, so I could see how big it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugle07 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) Sorry, can't help with a pic of an S class. But...... L Class HMS Legion, 1/700 Flyhawk HMS Faulknor. Niko 1/700 (HMS Hardy) Tamiya 1/700 V Class destroyer Tamiya 1/700 O Class destroyer And the IBG Hunt II I really need to crack on and get some of these done.... Geoff Edited September 14, 2018 by Bugle07 Spelling. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Nice little collection of Destroyers. Faulknor looks particularly nice with the rigging and weathering. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugle07 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Thanks Stuart, unfortunately, unlike the real Faulknor this ones been pretty much sunk, by my 6yr old boy. She may get new masts pe and rigging, or I'll just get another one... Geoff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 12/09/2018 at 18:27, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: What is well worth having though is one or two pairs of decent tweezers (at least one of the pair should be needle-nose) an acupuncture needle for gluing and some empty packaging for pills to put your glue in. Acupuncture needles? Can you elaborate please Jamie why these are better than a pin or cocktail stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 16 hours ago, Chewbacca said: Acupuncture needles? Can you elaborate please Jamie why these are better than a pin or cocktail stick? They are just the perfect thickness for getting in to joints and stiff enough to apply a dot whilst flexible enough to drag along a longer joint. They're brilliant. The handle is enough to pick it up with fingernails but not so bulky it gets in the way. It was Park SangHyun of Infini Model who told me about them when I asked how he assembled the instruction sheet models without visible glue joins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: They are just the perfect thickness for getting in to joints and stiff enough to apply a dot whilst flexible enough to drag along a longer joint. They're brilliant. The handle is enough to pick it up with fingernails but not so bulky it gets in the way. It was Park SangHyun of Infini Model who told me about them when I asked how he assembled the instruction sheet models without visible glue joins Sorry to barge in from the wings. Acupuncture needles sound perfect for the job - I've struggled with fuse wire, cocktail sticks & all sorts. Do you know which size you have Jamie? There seems to be a fair choice now I've looked! Gavin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamwalker Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 yes they are great got mine off ebay, better than anything else I have tried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdo Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Edge said: Sorry to barge in from the wings. Acupuncture needles sound perfect for the job - I've struggled with fuse wire, cocktail sticks & all sorts. Do you know which size you have Jamie? There seems to be a fair choice now I've looked! Gavin Yeah, me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Wow, you learn something everyday. I will have to get some and give them a try. Edited September 18, 2018 by Chewbacca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Edge said: Sorry to barge in from the wings. Acupuncture needles sound perfect for the job - I've struggled with fuse wire, cocktail sticks & all sorts. Do you know which size you have Jamie? There seems to be a fair choice now I've looked! Gavin Hi Gavin, I would recommend you try the 0.25mm thickness and either 30 or 40mm length. The length is the length of exposed needle beyond the handle part. Over 40 can feel a bit unwieldy and short needles can be a bit too stiff to drag along joins. I like the 0.25 x 40 best but the Infini guy likes 0.25 x 30 best. Best regards, Jamie 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 14 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: Hi Gavin, I would recommend you try the 0.25mm thickness and either 30 or 40mm length. The length is the length of exposed needle beyond the handle part. Over 40 can feel a bit unwieldy and short needles can be a bit too stiff to drag along joins. I like the 0.25 x 40 best but the Infini guy likes 0.25 x 30 best. Best regards, Jamie Great tip Box on the way from Ebay Thanks Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 16 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: Hi Gavin, I would recommend you try the 0.25mm thickness and either 30 or 40mm length. The length is the length of exposed needle beyond the handle part. Over 40 can feel a bit unwieldy and short needles can be a bit too stiff to drag along joins. I like the 0.25 x 40 best but the Infini guy likes 0.25 x 30 best. Best regards, Jamie Thanks Jamie. I'll give them a whirl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 19/09/2018 at 06:31, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said: Hi Gavin, I would recommend you try the 0.25mm thickness and either 30 or 40mm length. The length is the length of exposed needle beyond the handle part. Over 40 can feel a bit unwieldy and short needles can be a bit too stiff to drag along joins. I like the 0.25 x 40 best but the Infini guy likes 0.25 x 30 best. Best regards, Jamie I'm in for £2.99 it's got be to be worth a try. Thanks for the tip Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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