fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 A model from 12 years ago, for the Pioneers thread. One of my then Incipient efforts on scratchbuilding that today makes my smile because of it´s charming naivete. That two models of this plane (the other by his homonym Horatio Gruntfuttok this last Wednesday) were presented at BM really beats the odds. Well, you can see it by yourself. Reality can by stranger than imagination. The pioneering work of British Horatio Philips left many contributions to science and a great deal of machines that, after a convoluted and complex path, ended up influencing contemporary art. Among those -reputedly- flying machines, the multiplane (20-plane, to be precise) of 1904 is the subject of this modeling endeavor. Basically a simple machine to model, the multiplane doesn't require too much effort until you arrive to the "multi" part of multi-plane. I could find just one image of the plane, which differed from the plan I got, so I went along with the photo. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheonix Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 An extrordinary contraption by any measure, but I still think that you have done a first class job with this. Glueing all of those wings together and keeping them all aligned says a great deal about your modelling skill. Nothing to smile at there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdo Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 That's a quite amazing "aircraft" and you've done a fantastic model of it! The more I see of these old machines the more I wonder about the people that built and flew them. It must have taken quite incredible courage to try and fly some of these things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unfinished project Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Moa you must have the patience of a saint, the eyes of a hawk and the steady hands of a surgeon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Unfinished project said: Moa you must have the patience of a saint, the eyes of a hawk and the steady hands of a surgeon That's exactly what defines a Shaolin Modeling Monk: the patience of a two-year-old, the eyes of a plant, and the hands of a fish. Edited September 8, 2018 by Moa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Murdo said: The more I see of these old machines the more I wonder about the people that built and flew them. It must have taken quite incredible courage to try and fly some of these things. Indeed, but also they were all crazy, exactly the way those who make models of them are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Gruntfuttock Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Back at the computer and I find another Phillipps Multiplane - is there no end to the madness Mr Moa!! And I thought I was the only lunatic on the planet, but just seem to have the Southern Hemisphere to myself ha ha!. Great work and I shared your pain with the "multi" bit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Another superb work! This is perhaps that photom you have mentioned: The machine like that can fly I have fund now in net perhaps even more bizzare projects of Horatio Phillips: https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/horatio-phillips-venetian-blind-multiplane-possibly-the-first-ever-picture-id2664845 https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrul_tk65oLckIsAn8Eze8sPikoJiApi2e9DIGNsyhVvqAwG1O5w Other inventors also did not stop at triplanes: What an educative story about those multiplane machines! Cheers J-W 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallBlondJohn Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I love the relentless logic of these things: Wings produce lift. Big wings are too difficult to support. So just add more wings. Simples! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire31 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 And thus, in the year 2015, Horatio Philips' concept was vindicated, even if he didn't consider differential thrust… 😉 Highly impressive models, the small static one and the flying one! Kind regards, Joachim 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cngaero Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 So that's where my kitchen blind went to. Seriously though, this is another magnificent model. Your patience is amazing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Horatio Gruntfuttock said: ack at the computer and I find another Phillipps Multiplane - is there no end to the madness Mr Moa!! And I thought I was the only lunatic on the planet, but just seem to have the Southern Hemisphere to myself ha ha!. Great work and I shared your pain with the "multi" bit! The Horatios are multiplying like wings. This is getting out of control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 9 hours ago, JWM said: What an educative story about those multiplane machines! Cheers J-W We are just getting started, J-W, I will post today -in a few moments- the Leigh-Avro Baby as an RFI, and post here my Zerbe project if I can can rescue it from the drawers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glatisant Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Dick Dastardly and Muttley would right at home!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 I added this multiplane to the RFIs: And this is one of my projects, the Zerbe Air Sedan (I had to draw, as usual, my own plans) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallBlondJohn Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Is that... a Mac and a PC? Oh the heresy! Children, this is what looking at too many multiplanes leads to! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) They were, indeed. But that photo is from years ago. Now I do have a Mac and a PC. Oh, wait... Edited September 10, 2018 by Moa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 hours ago, TallBlondJohn said: Is that... a Mac and a PC? Oh the heresy! Children, this is what looking at too many multiplanes leads to! See post above (I did this with the help of my two computers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I remember a film of an a/c like that (maybe it was that). As soon as it started to taxi the whole wing assembly collapsed. John PS You really should stop posting these threads - I spend more time looking at them than modelling. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdo Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 9/11/2018 at 10:44 AM, John R said: I remember a film of an a/c like that (maybe it was that). As soon as it started to taxi the whole wing assembly collapsed. John PS You really should stop posting these threads - I spend more time looking at them than modelling. That's exactly what I remembered as soon as I saw it. I suppose the (fascinating) flying model has much less weight to mass ratio than the actual? Is that some kind of "wind anchor" that is following the model about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) On 9/11/2018 at 2:44 AM, John R said: I remember a film of an a/c like that (maybe it was that). As soon as it started to taxi the whole wing assembly collapsed. John PS You really should stop posting these threads - I spend more time looking at them than modelling. It wasn't actually the same plane, the main similarity being a multiwing design, it was a later design, somewhere I have the link to that newsreel, will see if I can find it. Edited September 12, 2018 by Moa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 Here is the newsreel, somewhere in the middle of the clip, as you may see, a different design: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjaweijfopi4j48 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 Another newsreel with different planes. I have to confess that i made SIX of these planes: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cngaero Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 There's some fascinating footage in that video together with some quite pleasing designs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 You really must stop this. I'm sure I must have better things to do. You were right about the multi-wing. That's the one I remember. Thanks John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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