Matthew Spence Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Finally getting some paint on, (excuse the mess there is also wall painting going on) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Newsome Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 The absence of the stbd anchor is interesting as it looks like the anchor fleets have had a coat of paint. There is no chipping at all where an anchor would be, only a rust streak from water running down the hawsepipe. In my opinion it looks like it was removed during a maintenance period and not replaced. Great job on all that PE! Keep up the good work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 @Paul Ewhat grey did you use on your Somerset? I’ve put down a Vallejo wolf grey and it looks just a touch too blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul E Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Matthew Spence said: @Paul Ewhat grey did you use on your Somerset? I’ve put down a Vallejo wolf grey and it looks just a touch too blue. I use Humbrol 127 as my topsides grey, I find it a close match having had opportunity to test it against the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Few more details: signal lamps and crests. Like Paul I also found the PE Signal lamps too 2D so I cannibalised them along with the kit lamps into a hybrid. This crest on the front of the bridge I'm fairly sure is a bit too overscale so I might redo it. On the other hand I'm not sure I would want it any smaller since I still have to paint the thing. Edited October 15, 2018 by Matthew Spence 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Paul E said: I use Humbrol 127 as my topsides grey Does "topsides" mean deck surfaces? I'm after the other one, for the "walls"*... For the deck surfaces I have Vallejo Dark Sea Grey, but tbh I'm much less worried about that since there seems to be massive differences between ships, and even patchiness on the same ship. *I wanna say bulkhead but I'm pretty sure that's an interior wall, not sure what exterior walls are called. Edited October 15, 2018 by Matthew Spence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Nice move from 2D to 3D signal lamps. 2 hours ago, Matthew Spence said: This crest on the front of the bridge I'm fairly sure is a bit too overscale so I might redo it. On the other hand I'm not sure I would want it any smaller since I still have to paint the thing. Instead of painting, could you not produce a decal? Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, Courageous said: Instead of painting, could you not produce a decal? Possibly, printing my own decals isn't something I've done before. My printer is not the best though, I'm not sure I couldn't do a better job painting it to be honest. The kit did come with one, but it is neither great quality nor accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Some fine detail work and congratulations - that is a well, worked on desk Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Looking good so far Matthew. Will be great to start seeing paint going on, topsides, decks, flat bits, walls, bulkheads ........ whatever! 😁 Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul E Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) Topsides = vertical surfaces = walls. 😁 The actual term for the external walls are screens but I wouldn't worry about that. Not wishing to upset you but HMS Westminster didn't carry the Portculis badge on the funnel until around 2002ish before then she was part of the 4th Frigate squadron and carried a large number 4 below the Crown. Also as she was a Swan Hunter built ship the Crown is gold all over and doesn't have red in it. I happen to think the badge in front of the bridge is about the right size. They are actually quite large and certainly bigger than the badges that you see hung up in pubs and such like. Edited October 16, 2018 by Paul E Addition 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Paul E said: Topsides = vertical surfaces = walls. 😁 The actual term for the external walls are screens but I wouldn't worry about that. Not wishing to upset you but HMS Westminster didn't carry the Portculis badge on the funnel until around 2002ish before then she was part of the 4th Frigate squadron and carried a large number 4 below the Crown. Also as she was a Swan Hunter built ship the Crown is gold all over and doesn't have red in it. I happen to think the badge in front of the bridge is about the right size. They are actually quite large and certainly bigger than the badges that you see hung up in pubs and such like. Good spot, thank you. I'm very tempted to leave the Portcullis badge like that as artistic licence just because it would be nice to have the crest on there. But I've made so much effort for accuracy thus far it would be a shame not to follow through. My other idea is to get a laser etched crest for the plinth and paint it, but I'm not sure how hard that will be to source. Currently waiting on paints so no progress to post. Pretty much everything is built now, everything left is either general assembly or waiting on general assembly. Most of this is rigging and the quarter deck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 Well masking a straight line on a curved hull is definitely one of the more challenging Aspects of model ship building I didn't see coming. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Tricky to mask I agree, but looks like you nailed it and the paint seems to have gone on well. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Might be interesting for you guys: gaming laser I use this in my wargaming and found it useful for marking those lines on the hull. Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 Some paint going on, this time anti fouling paint. Even was brave enough to add some shadow. The transition looks awful in this photo, it is much better and less orange in real life. Even so I think I will work to smooth out some more and push the highlight on the sonar bulge. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) @Paul E I know you used some Hawk Graphic decals on your build (which I have also purchased). I noticed the ship numbers on the Hawk sheet are a bit smaller than the decals in the box, any ideas on which is a more accurate scale? And where did you source your display case from? Edited October 26, 2018 by Matthew Spence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul E Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 15 hours ago, Matthew Spence said: @Paul E I know you used some Hawk Graphic decals on your build (which I have also purchased). I noticed the ship numbers on the Hawk sheet are a bit smaller than the decals in the box, any ideas on which is a more accurate scale? And where did you source your display case from? I would say that the Hawk Graphics decals are more accurate. There is a standard for pennant number dimensions but I don't know wat the size should be. As for the display cases I use, I get the covers manufactured by PlasticOnline: www.plasticonline.co.uk and the bases are from wood that was off cut from a hardwood deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Thanks Paul Aplogies for the lack of progress updates. I've been obsessively and unnecessarily adding detail to the hanger which next to no one is ever going to notice or appreciate. Hopefully you guys will enjoy it though. I haven't worried about historical accuracy any where near as much as the rest of the build, but the OOB detail was lacking so I found a photo of one end of a Type 23 hanger at some point in history and extrapolated roughly from that. I used the spare helicopter deck netting I had to create some storage cages with plasticard crates in behind them. Some plastic rods and wire to add the fire control system. Couple of spinal boards and vents from plasticard at the end with some spare railings from the PE. Put a couple of winch crane contraptions made from plasticard on the roof. And since I had some spare torpedos from my lynx kit so I though it would be cool to throw them on the wall. It's a bit messy to say the least and part of me wishes I'd painted it before assembling the hanger structure. But for one I didn't realise I was going to be adding all that detail when I glued it and for two I find painting parts before assembly pretty soul destroying and this is supposed to be an enjoyable hobby, so what the hell. By the time it's on the deck the limited light is going to obscure most of the mess anyway. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul E Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I do like your hangar it is a nice feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Hangar looks great. Torpedoes live in magazines, not on hangar walls, but you can always claim they’re... something else torpedo-shaped! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 To be fair you can barely make them out now never mind once the deck goes on. Out of interest how do they get from the magazine to the hanger/flight deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Spence Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Couple of pics the Seawolf block. First completed sub assembly 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Matthew Spence said: To be fair you can barely make them out now never mind once the deck goes on. Out of interest how do they get from the magazine to the hanger/flight deck? I never served in a 23, but they’ll be much the same as my beloved 22s. There is a deep magazine (low down in the ship, well below the water line) where most of the weapons are stored, and a hoist (lift) takes them up to the ready use magazine which is immediately forward of the hangar. The stuff required to attach it to the aircraft (suspension bands, parachute etc. - collectively known as Flight In Air Material: FIAM) is fixed in the ready use mag before the weapon is loaded onto the aircraft. The ship’s torpedo tubes (STWS 2 in a T22) also fire Stingrays, which is why they aren’t all stowed with FIAM on all the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Love that hanger detail Matthew, and the Seawolf block looks very realistic. You are certainly putting much effort into this build and she is coming along great. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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