Rob de Bie Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 6:08 AM, Rob de Bie said: The inlets are quite wrong too. The J57 powered U-2A/D had really small inlets, the kit's captuare area looks biggish. The bulged shape that I see in this view is completely wrong. In fact it should be an almost straight line from the inlet to the first glue joint! Here's how the Hawk U-2A inlet and inlet duct look like. As you can see, the duct is nearly cilindrical. AFV Club shaped it very differently. Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpk Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The 56 year old HAWK kit is far more accurate in shape than the new AFV kit. I would only get the AFV kit to use the detail parts on the HAWK kit. But that would be a very expensive detail set at $70.00+. The landing gear, camera bay, cockpit and Howdah might be worth it if you can find it down the road on the second hand market for a good price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 6:24 AM, JeffreyK said: Let’s see...😎 Or perhaps just provide us with updates for the older but better hawk kit, it would certainly take up a lot less resin! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 21 hours ago, modelling minion said: Or perhaps just provide us with updates for the older but better hawk kit, it would certainly take up a lot less resin! It would need a re-release of the original Hawk U-2A as they're getting tricky to find now. But using the new kit as a parts donor may be easiest if expensive. However if somebody were to release an accurate kit then they have a price point..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I was given to understand the U-2A molds were re-cut to make the C so no more A models. I was hoping this release would be a good new A, but my hopes look dashed. Glad I kept my Hawk kit with all the CE resin now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Decals & schemes ref. AR48112 Source: https://www.facebook.com/pg/AFVCLUB.TW/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1888884937823683 And a video: https://youtu.be/3-hKdPF7sNY?t=7 V.P. Edited November 19, 2018 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Well, it's in the moulding stages now, too late for any corrections. Oh well. Jeff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.sin Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 17 hours ago, pinky coffeeboat said: Well, it's in the moulding stages now, too late for any corrections. Oh well. Jeff Jeff, you never know, but they probably didn't make any corrections. Very disappointing . Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Do they have a track record of correcting any mistakes in their kits if it's pointed out to them? I know HobbyBoss (or maybe Trumpy) redesigned their Wildcat in response to criticism. Have AFV ever done likewise? Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 Box art - ref. AR48112 - Lockheed U-2A Dragon Lady "USAF" Source: https://www.facebook.com/AFVCLUB.TW/photos/a.1888884937823683/1995232680522241/?type=3&theater V.P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurent Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/19/2018 at 5:53 AM, Homebee said: This was done using the CAD model as the windscreen+canopy wrapping in the nose is visible here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Uncool Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Monsieur Laurent! 1 hour ago, Laurent said: This was done using the CAD model as the windscreen+canopy wrapping in the nose is visible here. That's right. Look at the height of the base of the windshield where it meets the nose. That's WAY too low. 6 hours ago, Homebee said: Strange thing both the windshield AND the intakes seem to look okay on the box art. Yeh, they do. Cheers, Unc2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salomon Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Why this year have so much "Must have" models release, so Ok take my money because I'm waiting for this airplane for so long, the last was the Italerie's U2-R, maybe it's the next release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyK Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 43 minutes ago, Uncle Uncool said: Monsieur Laurent! That's right. Look at the height of the base of the windshield where it meets the nose. That's WAY too low. Strange thing both the windshield AND the intakes seem to look okay on the box art. Yeh, they do. Cheers, Unc2 That’s what I was thinking, too... J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 9 hours ago, pinky coffeeboat said: I know HobbyBoss (or maybe Trumpy) redesigned their Wildcat in response to criticism. No, they didn't (well, not exactly). The only reason Trumpeter pulled and re-tooled the Wildcat is because Squadron/MMD, their main US wholesaler at the time, cancelled their orders for the kit. Squadron saw the kit, realized it wouldn't sell, and told Trumpeter to if they didn't re-work it, they could keep it; Trumpeter decided it was more economical to invest in revisions than to write off the project, so the kit got re-worked. It's possible that Squadron heard the commotion on sites like Hyperscale and ARC (I forget whether BM existed yet... was that pre- or post-'Malvinas Anniversary'?) and decided to press the issue, but it's a lot more likely that they just had a flood of cancelled pre-orders and realized they'd lose money if they maintained their order with Trumpeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Ok, so Trumpeter re-tooled their kit due to criticism from squadron who saw criticism on forums. Jeez, split hairs... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) And now also at LM http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=AF R48112 HS https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10575908 HE https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/1y9v6ehblpngczefkxum.html BigH https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/AR48112 LHS https://www.aviationmegastore.com/lockheed-u2a-dragon-lady-usaf-black-cat-ar48112-afv-club-ar48112-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=158417 V.P. Edited November 24, 2018 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnie Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I haven't touched a U-2C since 1994, but I think the flap hinges are to replicate BLC or Boundary Layer Control, where bleed air from the engine compressor is fed out over the wings to help increase lift. it is known as a "Blown Flap" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom726 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 £72 at big H. Wowwww.😒 Bit the bullet and put a pre-order in with Lucky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpk Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) On 11/15/2018 at 11:01 AM, SleeperService said: It would need a re-release of the original Hawk U-2A as they're getting tricky to find now. But using the new kit as a parts donor may be easiest if expensive. However if somebody were to release an accurate kit then they have a price point..... No can do. After Testors acquired the molds from HAWK, the molds were irreversibly altered when they added the spine canoe. Someone did a resin part that would fill the opening after removing the canoe to back convert to an A. Can't remember who though. Cutting Edge did a pretty complete resin set for the HAWK kit. There was a cockpit, front and rear gear wells with landing gear struts and wheels. There may have been other parts as well. If one was so inclined you could shoehorn a F-104 cockpit and bang seat into it. They were similar except for the control column and instrument panel. Others may know more. If Testors would have been smart they would have made the canoe as a separate piece so there could be different versions made from the kit,. Edited November 25, 2018 by jpk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Looking like a nice kit and there's an empty slot on my shelf waiting for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob de Bie Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/24/2018 at 5:39 PM, Winnie said: I haven't touched a U-2C since 1994, but I think the flap hinges are to replicate BLC or Boundary Layer Control, where bleed air from the engine compressor is fed out over the wings to help increase lift. it is known as a "Blown Flap" I touched a TR-1A only once at an airshow, but with regards to BLC, I've never ever read about that feature for either the U-2A/C nor the U-2R / TR-1. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Source: https://www.facebook.com/AFVCLUB.TW/posts/2013778845334291 V.P. Edited December 4, 2018 by Homebee 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Canopy, windscreen, air intakes, exhaust tail cone, top of tailplane etc. are definitely off. V.P. Edited December 4, 2018 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filler Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I'm certainly not a rivet counter and can live with some inaccuracies, but in this case I think I'll wait for the Hasegawa egg plane U-2 for a more faithful rendition. Joking aside, I thought AFV were supposed to be really good (in the context of aircraft at least). Wasn't their F-5 series heralded for accuracy and detail? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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