LDSModeller Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Hi All, This Group Build has arrived This post is a Place holder till Saturday, when it officially kicks off. I have a few RNZAF Aircraft on the go, but for now just this build and go from there. My choice of kit the old Frog F4U-1D Corsair - given my dismal GB ratio this year, I'm hoping I can finish the kit reasonably quickly Couple of Photos See you all Saturday Regards Alan PS Mods _ I might have jumped the Gun, this looks to be in the wrong place Edited December 30, 2018 by LDSModeller Chamge of Subject 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 nup you're just very early, I was only just reminded that this is coming up and I'm the host!! So welcome aboard and with a real classic! I love the scheme you've chosen, it'll be good to see some RNZAF in a build for a change. Good luck with the build with luck you should be able to finish this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 This’ll be good viewing - a Kiwi Corsair built by one of NZ’s go to question answerers. I’ve never seen the Frog kit parts so hope it all holds out well enough in the end. Good luck with it Alan. Cheers. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Good choice. My uncle flew these in the islands during the war. His name was Douglas Alan Youngs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 10:42 PM, trickyrich said: nup you're just very early, I was only just reminded that this is coming up and I'm the host!! So welcome aboard and with a real classic! I love the scheme you've chosen, it'll be good to see some RNZAF in a build for a change. Good luck with the build with luck you should be able to finish this one. 16 hours ago, Rabbit Leader said: This’ll be good viewing - a Kiwi Corsair built by one of NZ’s go to question answerers. I’ve never seen the Frog kit parts so hope it all holds out well enough in the end. Good luck with it Alan. Cheers. Dave Hi Rich and Dave, Thank you for your welcome and kind words. Dave - The academics are good - I only hope I can deliver a good and proper final product This will be the second time, I have built this kit, the first time was when I was about 11 or 12 in what we call here in New Zealand "Intermediate School" ( in between Primary and High Schools, roughly years 7-8) in a school model club, built OOB colour scheme and all (didn't know any better then) This build won't be I'm sorry to tell the masses, be using the Frog "Colour Scheme" as it didn't exist ever. Having looked at the Kit, it could be built as either an F4U-1A or early F4U-1D (doesn't have the under wing hard points) The following photos show the narrower chord Prop blade on both 1A/early 1D Also the rear wheel bay gear doors are missing the half curved hump found on later F4U-1D's/FG-1D's With that in mind, I have decided to build instead an RNZAF F4U-1A being NZ5347 as in this photo from my collection - showing an upper re-paint of either Glossy Sea Blue or NS Sea Blue with white lowers and Intermediate Blue outer lower wing panels - still some thing different And Yes I will "Edit/amend" the title too NZ5347 The other Re-paint at the other end of the line is NZ5350 "Struggle Buggy" which is currently another build sitting aside while I decide to try and finish the 1/32 Revell Engine or buy an aftermarket one. I have discovered one issue with the kit, and that is this - Note the funny looking molded dip in the wing next to the main wheel well - What were Frog thinking Well, will now need to wait for tomorrow to arrive and we are into it As an FYI, I will have a second build in the GB - Please check out my RNZAF 40K build (once I have posted it) Thanks/regards Alan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 looks like you have some fun ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I cut my modelling teeth on these frog kits, i still have a soft spot for them, i hope it goes well Glynn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I will be watching this one with great interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Hi All. Thanks for your comments So the first week is fast coming to a close, and I can gladly report plastic has been cut and the build begun. Sprue shot - not a lot of parts Canopy looks Okayish, I'll dip it in future and see how it goes The Kit has a one stop cockpit all molded into one, as you can see there is a fit problem I'll scratch build a new basic cockpit to sit in the opening. As you can also see the panel lines need some TLC This next photo is a comparison between a 1/32 Corsair wing and the Frog wing. I can see where Frog were going with this, and have made an "executive" decision to leave as is, "Corsair Purists" look away now if this hurts (sometimes you just gotta pick your battles ) Thanks for looking in, and more soon! Regards Alan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 As a corsair enthusiast i understand the issue. Would i like to see it perfect ? Of course, However in the true spirit of the hobby, I can see why you will build it as is and support your decision. 😉 Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 are you going to redo the panel lines or just leave them as is? You are right about the wing, it'll be a bit more work than it probably worth to fix. if you correct it then you may as well re-do the whole model.....which then sort of looses the appeal of building an old classic like this. I'd be inclined to build her completely OOB, no corrections, just a super tidy build exactly how she was meant to be built all those years ago. I remember these Frog kits, they were really nice back then my brother built heaps of them, I was a bit younger so Airfix OO/HO (1/76th now) tanks and solders were my thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: As a corsair enthusiast i understand the issue. Would i like to see it perfect ? Of course, However in the true spirit of the hobby, I can see why you will build it as is and support your decision. 😉 Dennis Hi Dennis. Thanks for your words of support I ummed and ahhed over how to deal with it, and decided that if I did attempt to "fix" it, I may do more damage than good. This certainly won't be the last RNZAF Corsair on my build list (WWII wise and immediate post war), but for the time being this will do for this particular build. Thanks/regards Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, trickyrich said: are you going to redo the panel lines or just leave them as is? You are right about the wing, it'll be a bit more work than it probably worth to fix. if you correct it then you may as well re-do the whole model.....which then sort of looses the appeal of building an old classic like this. I'd be inclined to build her completely OOB, no corrections, just a super tidy build exactly how she was meant to be built all those years ago. I remember these Frog kits, they were really nice back then my brother built heaps of them, I was a bit younger so Airfix OO/HO (1/76th now) tanks and solders were my thing. Hi Rich, I will sand off the panel lines, haven't quite decided about re-scribing. It was my plan to build OOB, maybe I'll adjust the cockpit to sit a little better, and go from there. Thanks/regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hi All, An update So been busy humming along and I'm happy thus far, no real hard core AMS (I think) The cockpit I've done some work on it added some extra plastic to the front coaming, and built a "Metal" seat out of pie plate Added some seat framing and side consoles All one big happy family with paint and foil seat belts Paint on the fuselage interior Fuselage and cockpit joined together - a few places for filler, so the raised panel lines were sanded off Wings Decided to add ejector chutes - hmmn - jury is still out on whether that was a good choice I've noted raised bumps for the wing ID lights - need to sort So I did, drilled them out looks OK Well that's all for now, thanks for looking in Regards Alan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Law Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) I can see you are making a big effort here. I look forward to the progress. Edited November 10, 2018 by Greg Law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 that cock[it and seat look great, nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 Hi All, Tiny update today, and thanks again chaps for your comments I have painted the engine and "Bronzed" the Cylinder heads -used Humbrol Antique Bronze to dry brush - though the photo makes it look like its rusted I have drilled out the exhausts (it was bugging me ) Also note the putty sanded down - though I screwed up scribing the "Backfire vents" hence the putty between the exhausts I have also started adding some wheel well walls, so that the wells are not so open Looking from the outside - looking good especially when pressed together Thanks for looking in - more soon Regards Alan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 nice work on those wheel wells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventora3300 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Great work on this 'oldie' kit, Alan. I am itching to build this one some time in the future so am appreciating your 'pioneering' on the details. (The Frog Sea Fury had similar issues with wing radiators and wheel wells that I recently enjoyed working around - I was a bit more coarse using 'sculpted' filler and card). Enjoying this. All the best, Mike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 Hi All, Thanks for the kind comments gents - much appreciated Quick but small update. The wings and tail feathers have now been attached I rescribed the main areas of the fuselage/wings/tail stabs - the black paint lines are there to help with the fuselage scribing (not preshading). As you can see there were a few areas that needed redoing The wing wheel wells came out well I think - helped to have a contour gauge to help create templates. As you can see a couple of "Glaring" gaps for filler along the wing/fuselage join I have just added for effect (not glued) the cowling with engine to see how it looks - I'm pleased with the result thus far Next, give it a quick wash down and prep for painting Thanks for looking in, more soon with colour added Regards Alan 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Hi All, Another quick update. So I puttied the wing joins and used Nail Remover to help smooth it out no sanding , but my Model smells like almonds I have added some paint (Brushed on) to "try" and simulate a doped fabric using Humbrol 56 Aluminium Fabric surfaces only - and once dry, I started masking these for the next paint type as a primer paint. Canopy is masked with Tamiya Tape and I have masked the rear of the Cowling interior. In a Larger model where a proper engine would be installed, the rear of the cowling interior would be painted a Light Grey (similar to what Grumman used) - This information comes from the F4U M&E manual the RNZAF Museum has. The forward internal area will be Intermediate Blue, again from the F4U M&E manual at RNZAF Museum The canopy seems a little high, especially the blown section, but I can live with it Thanks looking in, hopefully next posts will be with some colour added Regards Alan 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 you're doing some nice work there, I like what you're doing to stimulate the fabric, very clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 Hi All, A quick and small update The extra bits, wheel doors, pitot tube, all added and have sprayed the Insignia White on the lower fuselage/wings RNZAF F4U-1 Corsairs either had the extended tail wheel added in field, or arrived with it. I have extended the tail wheel with part of a pin for strength, and removed the arrestor hook, as RNZAF F4U-1's/FG-1's had them removed by the SU's prior to finally being BOC (Brought On Charge) Sprayed the Intermediate Blue - I like the way the fabric came out, with need to lighten that some though I had a bit of an air to ground interface and ended up with a crack in the fuselage seam between the wings As you can see I had also a bit of drama with the paint scraping off on Starboard wing While I'm here, I thought I share a build of a RAAF Boston III I have had on the burner for some time (way too advanced for this GB) Model Markings Thanks for looking in Regards Alan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 she's coming along nicely, shame about the crack in the fuselage, hopefully that's an easy one to fix. I like the "Lay By Now" sticker and the $1.45 sticker, that certainly shows it's age! The decals look in remarkably good shape for it's age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 This is looking good Alan, I like what you're doing with it (them) the Int Blue on the Corsair looks the goods to my eyes, Humbrol? Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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